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Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by andybak »

bbor wrote: post #138
boh wrote: post #116

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Using this: https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui Then this: https://civitai.com/ And I have completely abandoned DALLE and will likely never use it again.

I was kind of hoping someone like you would reply - you’re a very kind person. Thank you for taking the time. Excited to try this advice tonight!

On Windows just use https://softology.pro/tutorials/tensorflow/tensorflow.htm

It installs dozens upon dozens of models and related scripts painlessly.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by raspasov »

hot_gril wrote: post #143
fooker wrote: post #33

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From what I understand, Google has a unusually large number of engineers who are happy to coast, and would actively avoid taking on anything important. That seems more of an issue to me compared to middle management bloat.

There are plenty of ICs who coast there, but what's far worse are the groups of ICs who are all pushing hard in different directions because their leadership isn't taking charge. IDK if middle management bloat exactly is the problem either, but there's some kind of ineffectiveness, maybe even at the top. One low-level issue is how long everything has to take because of tooling. Engineers have way too much patience fo…

Actively meandering in the wrong direction.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by hot_gril »

raspasov wrote: post #152
hot_gril wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of ICs who coast there, but what's far worse are the groups of ICs who are all pushing hard in different directions because their leadership isn't taking charge. IDK if middle management bloat exactly is the problem either, but there's some kind of ineffectiveness, maybe even at the top. One low-level issue is how long everything has to take because of tooling. Engineers have way too much patience fo…

Actively meandering in the wrong direction.

Actively deprecating random stuff for no reason

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by KennyBlanken »

behnamoh wrote: post #149
6gvONxR4sf7o wrote: post #145

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Once I finally got mostly set up for that, with billing and everything, it said it's only available for a limited number of customers, with a "request access" link to a google form with further links (to enable https://aiplatform.googleapis.com/ ) which 404. What a shitshow.

Google seems to be desperately trying to show that they’re still relevant in AI, but they always end up with half-assed demos and presentations of products that don’t exist yet.

Isn't "half assed" a fairly accurate description of basically every google product since gmail and Android (and arguably that's been a rolling dumpster fire)

Even calendaring was something that took ages for them to get right. For something like a decade you couldn't move an event from one calendar to another on Android - only via the destop web view.

Google went from being an innovative company to a web version of IBM...a giant lumbering dinosaur that can't get out of its own way, and everyone kinda needs but also deeply loathes

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by timeon »

fooker wrote: post #58
bmoxb wrote: post #43

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I've seen this claim thrown around a few times but haven't really seen any evidence that it's true, beyond a few unconvincing anecdotes.

What kind of evidence would this involve? Would you have agreed this was the case at Twitter for a while?

Twitter is barely working. They had to cut browsing for not logged-in people.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by zb3 »

gpm wrote: post #47
simonw wrote: post #2

This post has more information: https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/ai-machine-learning/i... I can't figure out how to try this thing. The closest I got was this sentence: "To get started with Imagen 2 on Vertex AI, find our documentation or reach out to your Google Cloud account representative to join the Trusted Tester Program."

I think the process is 1. Go to console.cloud.google.com 2. Go to model garden 3. Search imagegeneration 4. End up at https://console.cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/publishers/google... And for whatever reason that is where the documentation is. Sample request curl -X POST \ -H "Authorization: Bearer $(gcloud auth print-access-token)" \ -H "Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8" \ -d @request.json \ "https://us-c…

I can confirm that month ago there was a bug where you could try Imagen just via changing JS variables (but it didn't work for video generation).

Of course it became immediately obvious to me why the model isn't public. It's just not as good as advertised, that's why. Google should stop deceiving the public.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by ianbicking »

RobinL wrote: post #126
zirgs wrote: post #54

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That's because it was trained on RGB images without an alpha channel. There is currently no public image generator that understands alpha channel.

As a user, this really frustrates me. Promoting is not precise enough to compose a bunch of specific elements, so the obvious solution is to do several prompts each with transparency and then combine in Photoshop/photopea. I end up asking for a white background and then cutting out manually

I feel like someone could satisfy this issue with a little background removal AI in the pipeline. I also go through the same process, stitching together a few tools, and obviously it's possible... but it sure would be nice if it all fit together better. Something where "transparent background" was translated to "white background" or something and then it went through the background removal.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by timeon »

mrtksn wrote: post #107
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #104

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How did the Twitter-style culling work out for Twitter?

AFAIK it worked out well. Works more-less the same as before, shipped quite a bit of stuff and drastically reduced costs.

> more-less the same as before

Not if you have no account and are not in US. Before, when I clicked on twitter link it worked 99.9% of the time. Now it is lottery. Sometimes it loads without comments, most of the time it does not load at all.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by zb3 »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #124
fooker wrote: post #20

Wow, Google has really become the IBM of 2005s. All flashy demos, 'call sales' to try anything.

Idk they did release public access to Gemini on day one. At least for one of the versions.

This confirms that they don't really withhold access to other models because of "safety", but simply because those models are not as good as advertised.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by timeon »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #105
brrrrrm wrote: post #34

they should make it accessible at https://imagen.google like how meta did with https://imagine.meta.com

Don't forget Bing Image Creator: https://www.bing.com/images/create My kids found it organically and were happily creating all sorts of DALL·E 3 images.

Strange dark pattern. Both have prompts without submit button.
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