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What will enter the public domain in 2024?

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Re: What will enter the public domain in 2024?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Life+50 countries, they'll enter the public domain. In the UK and other Life+70 countries, they won't.

So can they host the Gutenberg project in NZ then? There is no feasible way for people to prevent people from downloading the hobbit. They couldn't stop music or movie downloads except by adopting a subscription model that effectively reduced the prices. These files are tiny and the ethical case against it is so much harder to make. Edit: also, these are the sorts of books that don't get lumped into subscriptions and…

They can, but they'd have to make those downloads only available to NZ users. This is also why American sites need to block EU users or comply with the GDPR. You can't just pick a server location with the laxest laws.

IIRC, Gutenberg already does this, limiting access from Germany which has a stricter copyright than the US.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2024?

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Disney Animation has been using a clip from Steamboat Willy (and the song) as their opening bumper for years. It was originally done when John Lassiter took over Disney Animation as an homage to his idol Walt. But some IP lawyers have said that it may also make it impossible to use Steamboat Willy in the public domain because they could claim you're violating their copyright on their bumper. Will be interesting to se…

> could claim you're violating their copyright on their bumper

That's not how it works, the use of Steamboat Willy in the bumper and public domain use just share the same source material, and Disney can't claim copyright on that source material since they no longer own it. Someone would have to copy the actual bumper to make it copyright infringement.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2024?

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The mouse via Steamboat Willie is scheduled to enter public domain? Guess we can look forward to quite eventful three weeks before the end of the year, while Disney is frantically trying to prevent that outcome.

Disney spent the last decade or so growing their business (through large acquisitions) to where Mickey is now just small fraction of their worth. So they likely don't really care anymore. Plus it's only the old, old design of Mickey, not the current version they have been using for awhile that looks more normal to most people these days.

I feel like by this point, Mickey is already useless as copyright, but rather as trademark. Will this be how Disney use Mickey in the future?

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2024?

#155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took one year from Winnie the Pooh entering the public domain to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh:_Blood_and_Hon... And AFAIK they were not sued, despite being ever so slightly off brand for Disney.

Plenty of Disney characters like Snow White or Cinderella have been public domain all the time without it hurting Disney.

I'm working on a "Pedophile Willy" adaptation of Steamboat Willy, complete with raw (stick figure) sex scenes and Willy promoting the "pedophile lifestyle".

Lets see how that goes.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2024?

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where it also gets tricky is the creation of additional Steamboat Willie content - if you want to create and publish new Steamboat Willie stuff, you'll have to be crystal clear that it's not coming from Disney. If it looks like it's coming from Disney, that's when they can step in.

Hmmm, is the term "Mickey Mouse" trademarked? As in, would a new name be needed for any new "Mickey Mouse" animation created using the old Steamboat Willie (mouse) character?

Mickey Mouse is trademarked as a word and as a picture and all kinds of derivatives like the silhouette of his head or the design of the eared hats. You can't use him as a symbol of your business or to suggest that your product comes from Disney, but none of that will stop you from making a new creative work featuring Mickey as he appeared in Steamboat Willie any more than McDonald's can stop you from writing a book where characters eat a Happy Meal.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2024?

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So can they host the Gutenberg project in NZ then? There is no feasible way for people to prevent people from downloading the hobbit. They couldn't stop music or movie downloads except by adopting a subscription model that effectively reduced the prices. These files are tiny and the ethical case against it is so much harder to make. Edit: also, these are the sorts of books that don't get lumped into subscriptions and…

They can, but they'd have to make those downloads only available to NZ users. This is also why American sites need to block EU users or comply with the GDPR. You can't just pick a server location with the laxest laws. IIRC, Gutenberg already does this, limiting access from Germany which has a stricter copyright than the US.

Does Gutenberg block access or does Germany? If gutenberg NZ had no presence outside NZ would it even matter?

And even if it was blocked, vpn works fine.

Just checked and the AU site lets me access things I shouldn't where I am, so they clearly aren't that concerned.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2024?

#158

Disney Animation has been using a clip from Steamboat Willy (and the song) as their opening bumper for years. It was originally done when John Lassiter took over Disney Animation as an homage to his idol Walt. But some IP lawyers have said that it may also make it impossible to use Steamboat Willy in the public domain because they could claim you're violating their copyright on their bumper. Will be interesting to se…

This reminds me of the copy protection on the original Gameboy.

So Nintendo makes the Gameboy, and they only want authorized games to be used in the system. But how can they stop someone from looking at the hardware and making a compatible game without paying a license fee?

Well, they build a check into the hardware for a specific set of assembly code on the cartridge. If your cart doesn't have that exact assembly it won't boot up.

The code?

It displays the Nintendo logo on the screen and plays their jingle.

That way, if you did make an unauthorized cartridge, you'd have to infringe on their trademark in order to make the game playable.

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2024?

#159

Disney Animation has been using a clip from Steamboat Willy (and the song) as their opening bumper for years. It was originally done when John Lassiter took over Disney Animation as an homage to his idol Walt. But some IP lawyers have said that it may also make it impossible to use Steamboat Willy in the public domain because they could claim you're violating their copyright on their bumper. Will be interesting to se…

This reminds me of the copy protection on the original Gameboy. So Nintendo makes the Gameboy, and they only want authorized games to be used in the system. But how can they stop someone from looking at the hardware and making a compatible game without paying a license fee? Well, they build a check into the hardware for a specific set of assembly code on the cartridge. If your cart doesn't have that exact assembly it…

damn thats big brain

Re: What will enter the public domain in 2024?

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post #136

Not quite in the same vein, but the patent for T-splines expires in 2024. Big news for 3D modeling systems.

Can you add some context on what T-splines are and why it's a big news? I kinda know splines in a trajectory planning sense but never heard of T-splines. Thanks!

The important part is that compared to B-splines, it lets you reduce the data size of a closed form surface by reducing the amount of data needed to describe it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20120710171813/http://cagd.cs.by...

The first 3 pictures explain it better than I can describe it, the rest is math going into how it's implemented.

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