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An "Independent" board is supposed to be a good thing, right? Doesn't this clown show show that if a board has no skin in the game --apart from reputation-- they have no incentive to keep the company alive?
imagine you are Mira. you are told Thursday they will fire Sam. You would think she would at a minimum ask why. Let's assume she does that. Then they give the two reasons Ilya did. What normal non-self serving human would even go along with the plan at that point? Now she realizes she must bail to hitch a ride back on her Sam gravy train. She is major sus here. Any non greed ego driven person would have told the boar…
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most people working at openai are subject to the same harsh market conditions everyone is. also, do you really care that the CEO was fired as long as you are getting payed what it was agreed upon when you got hired and you are doing interesting work?
> do you really care that the CEO was fired as long as you are getting payed what it was agreed upon ... I can't speak to the mood of specific staff at OpenAI but as to the question in general; Hell yeah to the Nth degree. I'm 60, I've had a long career and have been through two instances of companies falling out at the board level. I've onboarded at various projects because I cared about the projects and work that'd…
I'm 66, in case that matters.
You have to wonder at this point how much of this is the current board members trying to somehow save face. I can’t imagine their careers after this will be easy…
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Weird take in this context. Nearly all of the company has threatened to walk out and join Microsoft.
hah. these people obviously have not worked for Microsoft. You need to remember why this tech emerged in a place like OpenAI and not MS or Google. The structure and the politics of a big corporation are not conducive to cutting edge tech. They may go to Microsoft, but they will not be able to innovate in the same way and will probably fall into irrelevance in the long run.
Here's an example of some of their work: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Microsoft+Research+four+color+theo...
Literally a random math problem, basically nothing to do with Microsoft on the surface ... except that the scientist working on it happened to prove the theorum using a very, very robust algorithm and then wrote a proof program on top of it to prove the program was correct. The underlying parts of that proof program eventually went on to become the thing that validates graphics drivers on Windows ... 7 and beyond? My memory is fuzzy about "how it ended up being useful at Microsoft" part.
But yeah, MSR does random stuff.
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Seems most likely Sustkever wanted him fired and then realized his mistake. Ultimately the board was probably quietly seething about the direction the company was headed, got mad enough to retake the reigns with that stunt and then realized what that actually meant. Now they are trying to unring the bell but cannot.
Trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
Spiritual death by Microsoft or work for the reincarnation of Howard Hughes at https://x.ai/ ?
..no wonder they are trying to keep on with their current routines! Even if somehow they stay at OpenAI, Microsoft will impose certain changes upon OpenAI to ensure this can never happen again.
Meanwhile, any comparable offering right now will be selected by the customer base due to “risk at 11” in basing systems on OpenAI’s current APIs (and uncertainty of when an MS equivalent might emerge).
Very healthy culture. I hope Altman will teach us all about that in the next Y Combinator batch.
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Seems most likely Sustkever wanted him fired and then realized his mistake. Ultimately the board was probably quietly seething about the direction the company was headed, got mad enough to retake the reigns with that stunt and then realized what that actually meant. Now they are trying to unring the bell but cannot.
Trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube.
However, it may not yield a result anyone's actually happy with: