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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.

It depends on what they are allowed to do as employees, which is probably in the process of being figured out right now.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but for me it is us framed as if they won't be working on GPT-based products, but on research. The whole thing reads like this to me: "In hindsight, we should've done more due diligence before developing a hard dependency on an organization and its product. We are aware that this was a mistake. To combat this, we will do damage control and continue to work with OpenAI, while develo…

How do you conduct research with sales people? even if they manage to bring in researchers from OpenAI, the only gain here is microsoft getting some of the researchers behind the products and/or product developers.

Ah yes, Greg Brockman, former CTO of Stripe (amongst other things)... sales person.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Have to give it to Satya. There's a thin possibility that Microsoft would have to write-off its whole $10B (or more?) investment in OpenAI, but that isn't Satya's focus. The focus is on what he can do next. Maybe, recruit the most formidable AI team in the world, removed from the shackles of an awkward non-profit owning a for-profit company? Give enough (cash) incentives and most of OpenAI employees would have no qua…

He doesn’t have to write down the investment that came in the form of azure credits. He just doesn’t have to deliver.

The core thing he is 100% focused on is not having a massive stock drop Monday morning. That’s it that’s his reason to exist all weekend long.

After that. He has time to figure it out.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Microsoft is the winner here. They will probably use Sam/Greg's technical know how to reproduce GPT4 internally, and also direct future research based on current OpenAI approaches which they are certainly aware of. This also shields Microsoft from being dependent on an external entity that they cannot control. Anyways, Satya played very smart with the hands he was dealt, got what he needed.

Not just Sam and Greg. From all rumors, they'll get a cream of researchers from OpenAI, plus access to most of already developed tech. Not sure about training data etc. that they may have to recreate. And from my understanding, in LLM tech know how is more valuable than actual data. If you know what to get, few 100 million should get them that.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.

Presumably they’ll both get their C-level positions out of the gate (for that AI entity MS is setting up specially for this) so not just “mere” employees. But, yeah, kind of confusing, especially for Altman. He was the kind of guy on the way to become worth $100 billion and more, with enough luck, meaning to be the next Musk or Zuckerberg of AI, but if he chooses to remain inside a behemoth like MS the “most” that he…

> He was the kind of guy on the way to become worth $100 billion and more, with enough luck,

Was he though? If I understand correctly he didn’t have any equity in the for profit org. Of OpenAI.

IIRC he also publicly said that he doesn’t “need” more than a few hundred million (and who knows, not inconceivable that he might actually feel that).

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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So Altman now has a backer for his NVIDIA killer, and one who can use it not just for LLMs but Azure too, and one day possibly consumer GPUs? Forget Xbox, subsidised graphics cards as a loss-leader for Game Pass subscriptions would be an interesting play. What will the antitrust people think?
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