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Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#151

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>I think what they said is actually a lot more interesting Your rewriting of the comment says exactly the same thing it did before. My assessment of it remains the same. I think an important part of maturing as a developer (and a human) is realizing that it's better to say nothing at all than to write "it works for me, use something else if you don't like it" in response to criticism of work that you: 1. Publish onli…

> realizing that it's better to say nothing at all than to write "it works for me, use something else if you don't like it" It seems really important to clarify what you will and won't do in your projects. Setting aside the tone of the response - are you saying that people should respond to critique only with silence or agreement? Many open source projects could expand functionality in one direction or another and th…

>It seems really important to clarify what you will and won't do in your projects.

Sure, but that's not what the designer did. Their comment didn't mention one specific change that they are (or aren't) going to implement.

"Nah, everything's fine, works for me" doesn't clarify anything about the font - just about the designer.

>Setting aside the tone of the response

Aside from the main issue I have with the communication, ....

>- are you saying that people should respond to critique only with silence or agreement?

No.

What I say is that a response to constructive, grounded criticism should be reciprocal. If you're already making an effort to object to grounded criticism, make a grounded objection.

The objection the deisgner made was little more than "works for me, like it or leave it". There is zero value in that.

>Many open source projects could expand functionality in one direction or another and the fact that the team is not interested in particular directions is often valuable information.

Arugably, it is useful to know that the caretaker of the project is not giving any consideration to feedback. But that's not something I can commend.

"This font isn't going to follow all readability guidelines" doesn't actually communicate any information. You can't say what's on the roadmap for the font, other than it will be whatever the designer likes.

> For me, the question is one of the venue of the "work": Who will be forced to deal with it? In this case the answer seems clearly to be: "no one."

We are. The github page for that font is written entirely in that font.

I feel it's disengenous to say that you can't criticize a font because the only person that is "forced" to see it is the person that picks it for use, and otherwise, it's the responsibility of that person.

By that logic, all fonts are above critcism!

>If you are turning in an essay and your teacher can't read it - you are going to get a zero

The work (the font and its description, written in that font) has been presented to us for grading, and it was graded accordingly.

>I will also say that this example differs in that the complaint was not illegibility. crazygringo said "You can read it, but it simply takes more effort."

According to [1], the property of being hard to read makes text illegible.

The point at which the text becomes illegible rather than simply "taking more effort to read" is subjective, I am not going to die on that hill.

[1] https://www.dictionary.com/browse/illegible

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#152
post #117

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>Heh well actually I made the font for my own use. Perhaps you should change the banner on the github page to reflect that. Currently, it says "the best programming font"; whereas your comment implies it is merely "the best font for rubjo ". Same goes for your Patreon page. When you take other people's money, you say: >It means a lot to me that you choose to support me this way. With your contribution, I can cover so…

You might be firing yourself up a little too much over an opinionated font which is being offered for free. The web site banner and slogans are ehh lets say intentionally and super-obviously grand, if you get what I mean. (?) I shared it so anyone else who likes it also can use it. It works really well for me. A few others have told me the same. That’s more than enough for me. It’s great that you have found something…

>You might be firing yourself up a little too much

Why, I'm not "firing myself up" at all. To the contrary, it's rather calming to talk about fonts rather than wars.

> The web site banner and slogans are ehh lets say intentionally and super-obviously grand, if you get what I mean. (?)

So is your attitude towards feedback, if you get what I mean. (?)

>I shared it so anyone else who likes it also can use it. It works really well for me. A few others have told me the same. That’s more than enough for me.

The fact that you have donation links, a Patreon page, and a merch store[1] indicates otherwise.

Clearly, "a few people telling you it works for them" wasn't enough; you'd also like people to give you money and buy your merch so that you could make a living doing this.

From your Patreon:

>If everyone who visited the font home page and downloaded the font had contributed like you do, I could have developed Victor Mono and other fonts as a full-time job.

So... yeah.

>It’s great that you have found something else that works for you

How would you know that?

>Peace, man! :)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[1] https://victor-mono.myspreadshop.com/

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#153
I actually like Victor Mono. Ligatures, italics and cursive comments are my favorite features. It helps me to visually classify different sections of code, without being dependent on just colour of the text (I find current code themes already way too colourful!).

Re: Victor Mono Typeface

#154
post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be firing yourself up a little too much over an opinionated font which is being offered for free. The web site banner and slogans are ehh lets say intentionally and super-obviously grand, if you get what I mean. (?) I shared it so anyone else who likes it also can use it. It works really well for me. A few others have told me the same. That’s more than enough for me. It’s great that you have found something…

>You might be firing yourself up a little too much Why, I'm not "firing myself up" at all. To the contrary, it's rather calming to talk about fonts rather than wars. > The web site banner and slogans are ehh lets say intentionally and super-obviously grand, if you get what I mean. (?) So is your attitude towards feedback, if you get what I mean. (?) >I shared it so anyone else who likes it also can use it. It works r…

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