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When I see "open" I read it as "I can do what I want with it". I don't read it as any obligation on the part of the provider/creator to incur ongoing costs on my behalf.
"Open" as in "open beer", so to speak.
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If I read the post correctly, they are making changes to the API, not the website itself, right? You will still be able to visit the website and download the subtitles you want. You just won't be able to make use of the API without paying for it. Edit: Nvm they are going to insert ads everywhere
They're already showing ads... maybe you don't see them because you're using an adblocker.
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Scripts include things such as "Character X does Y" and "Z event happens". Subtitles are more like a transcript or written down song lyrics.
Arent' song lyrics also under copyright? Or is this depending on the country and their definition of intellectual property?
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The "full data dump" contains only some metadata and the download link for the file. You can't get all the subtitles from the dump.
Well you can, it just takes the extra step of grabbing the download from the page. I have done it before but I dismissively misspoke and should have said full index of subtitles available.
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Scripts include things such as "Character X does Y" and "Z event happens". Subtitles are more like a transcript or written down song lyrics.
Arent' song lyrics also under copyright? Or is this depending on the country and their definition of intellectual property?
source: I worked in the music biz
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Please, go right ahead and grab one of those dumps to see how useful they really are. It’s just a list of subtitles with download links. > But I suspect your comment like many others are from users who don't even really use OpenSubtitles often/ever. I suspect your comment is a whole load of projection.
If you are going to disagree with my opinion than please disprove what I said instead of dismissing it as projection. I use OpenSubtitles a lot. You can still freely download subtitles, but their will now be limits on the new REST Api they build. You could in theory scrape the site. You can jump on and download things freely. There might be full dumps including the subtitle text itself out there, I would guess nobody…
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Arent' song lyrics also under copyright? Or is this depending on the country and their definition of intellectual property?
I doubt they are under copyright, if they were, cover bands or bands making covers of songs would be getting sued willy nilly.
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It's definitely a tricky fair use case, and obviously will depend on each country. IANAL but I'd say the main argument for it being free use is that subtitles don't take away from movie/TV sales. There's no harm. To the contrary -- fan-made subtitles in languages the studio didn't produce might generate purchases where there were none before. While the main argument against it is that it's part of and enables broader…
There are also wrinkles in the distinctions between subtitles and captions, definitions of accessibility, the application of accessibility to fair use (and related restrictions on distribution), the definition or existence of fair-use exceptions in different jurisdictions, and on and on. The bottom line is that most of these points haven't been challenged outside of that BREIN case, nor do they cover some of the more…
Oh boy. I mean, I frequently rewind turn on subtitles for 10 seconds because a bit of dialog is totally unintelligible. (Or it turns out to be perfectly intelligible but it's something with a proper noun like "Kantauganwe it is.")
For people without accessibility needs, speech-to-text is the least help when they most need it...
> Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP's per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user. > If you wish to offer subtitles without prompting for an opensubtitles account, please contact us and tell us about your project... For an ea…
For consumers with normal usage, on-demand downloading of subtitles for 5 movies in a day seems pretty good. For TV, not so much. Even rate limits would be fine. A movie can be downloaded every hour, a TV show every 15 minutes.
For a media server that wants a local cache of the subtitles, it could still run through with those rate limits in the background while you’re not watching. It could be a slight annoyance when first setting it up, but would be a one time thing and not much of an issue for one-off adds over time.
I was messing around to mass download stuff from a wallpaper site with an API about a year ago, just because I’m a data hoarder and was worried about it going away at some point. The API required auth and had a rate limit, but as a consumer, it was fine. I just added in a 2 second wait between downloads and had no issues. It took longer, but what do I care? After a week of screwing around with it I saw I downloaded about 50gb of wallpapers, which was more than I wanted. I felt kind of bad about it and stopped. I decided to be a bit more intentional on my downloads after that. The tool I made let me put it a tag and download all the results. That was a bit too greedy.
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If you are going to disagree with my opinion than please disprove what I said instead of dismissing it as projection. I use OpenSubtitles a lot. You can still freely download subtitles, but their will now be limits on the new REST Api they build. You could in theory scrape the site. You can jump on and download things freely. There might be full dumps including the subtitle text itself out there, I would guess nobody…
What you said had been disproven in this discussion hours before you said it.