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Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by kisielk »

vito wrote: post #130
unreal37 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think G+ needs to clarify whether it's aimed at "only real friends" as Facebook is, or aimed at "mainly people you don't know" a la Twitter. Once they clarify that, people will stop posting vacation photos for strangers to see, or stop posting Lisp programming tips to their personal friends.

Isn't it the whole point of Circles that they don't have to clarify that? You're in complete control of who you send things to from the very beginning, and the only way you can add people is by putting them in the appropriate circle(s).

But that puts the onus on the sender not to spam people who may not be interested. There needs to be more control for the receiving end.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by spullara »

vito wrote: post #130
unreal37 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think G+ needs to clarify whether it's aimed at "only real friends" as Facebook is, or aimed at "mainly people you don't know" a la Twitter. Once they clarify that, people will stop posting vacation photos for strangers to see, or stop posting Lisp programming tips to their personal friends.

Isn't it the whole point of Circles that they don't have to clarify that? You're in complete control of who you send things to from the very beginning, and the only way you can add people is by putting them in the appropriate circle(s).

The whole thing is somewhat inside out. People should probably expose the things they are going to talk about and users decide what they want to hear from them. You could then make a topic protected or public. Protected would allow the broadcaster to accept / deny subscribers to that topic. Still too complicated but it would at least give people the control they think that circles provides but doesn't.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by NickPollard »

monochromatic wrote: post #82
NickPollard wrote: post #36

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I've noticed that all the people joking about Google+ are the ones who don't use it, whilst the ones who do just happily get on using it.

> the ones who do just happily get on using it and happily continue being google employees

Really? You're going to go there?

You're making just the exact same mistake my comment referred to. The 'joke' is that it's just Google employees, but guess what? Reality doesn't mirror that. My circles are full of people who aren't Google employees. If yours are, then either you work at Google or you have a weird selection of friends and associates.

If you have proof that the 170million odd members are predominantly Google employees (which seems unlikely, unless they've spent their 20% time developing AI to be used as social networking bots), then I'll be pleased to see it.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by Angostura »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #75

For me, the problem with G+ is that you can't fine-tune the signal:noise ratio enough. In a nutshell, Facebook is a network of people I know first IRL, so getting pictures of their dinner last night or latest cat's antics and other useless stuff I can sort of live with, it goes with the territory. But G+ is more like Twitter with longer posts - I follow a a lot of people I don't know IRL, but only because of a shared…

The fundamental problem that you are suffering is that Google+ is centered around people and yd prefer a system based around topic or interest.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by shadgregory »

unreal37 wrote: post #107
SkyMarshal wrote: post #75

For me, the problem with G+ is that you can't fine-tune the signal:noise ratio enough. In a nutshell, Facebook is a network of people I know first IRL, so getting pictures of their dinner last night or latest cat's antics and other useless stuff I can sort of live with, it goes with the territory. But G+ is more like Twitter with longer posts - I follow a a lot of people I don't know IRL, but only because of a shared…

I think G+ needs to clarify whether it's aimed at "only real friends" as Facebook is, or aimed at "mainly people you don't know" a la Twitter. Once they clarify that, people will stop posting vacation photos for strangers to see, or stop posting Lisp programming tips to their personal friends.

Why didn't you tell me you hated my Lisp tips! :(

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by nailer »

acdha wrote: post #148
caffleine wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a "Who can send you notifications?" section on the settings page which allows you to configure who can send you notifications that trigger the red alert.

This does not actually work for being added to circles.

Try this instead: https://github.com/mikemaccana/japanese_mayonnaise

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by Steko »

"More than 170 million people have upgraded to Google+"

Seems to me that continuing to count everyone who gets an Android phone or signs up for Gmail as a G+ user just invites people to pile on and point out how underwhelming G+'s userbase has been to date.

http://www.google.com/insights/search/#q=Google%20Plus%2CPin...

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by qseep »

What they need is are "show more like this"/"show fewer like this" buttons. Then they can use a Bayes filter (like the Spam flag in Gmail) to hide posts. So if you don't want to see that programming-language researcher's vacation photos, click "show fewer like this".

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by dredmorbius »

SkyMarshal wrote: post #75

For me, the problem with G+ is that you can't fine-tune the signal:noise ratio enough. In a nutshell, Facebook is a network of people I know first IRL, so getting pictures of their dinner last night or latest cat's antics and other useless stuff I can sort of live with, it goes with the territory. But G+ is more like Twitter with longer posts - I follow a a lot of people I don't know IRL, but only because of a shared…

This.

More fundamentally: I don't care to transact my private life on someone else's server (especially someone whose business model is based on mining that life for marketing and other undisclosed purposes).

My professional interests and certain hobbies: not such an issue. Though I see no reason to tie these to a hard and real identity. I managed fine for my first quarter century on the Internet without that.

Re: Google+ gets a redesign

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Post by dredmorbius »

raldi wrote: post #20
jedc wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of me wants this, too. But the other part of me hates it when a majority of my Facebook timeline is just updates from apps, games, and other crap that get automatically shared. This is a delicate balance.

On G+, you only see your friends' game update crap when you're on the Games tab.

But you can't delete the games tab.
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