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KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Re: KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Post by walteweiss »

Pannoniae wrote: post #47
addicted wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There you go proving that it’s not just that many Linux users have a bad design sensibility, but worse, they will defend bad design as good design. Not only do you defend it, even your defense proves that Comic Sans is a bad design, because matching the needs of what it’s used for (in this case a business setting, where fun fonts are not allowed) is one of the highest factors in good design. And you display another b…

Not all of life is business, and there's some business where fun is allowed. Also, Comic Sans is not even something rebellious, it's literally a good-looking, quirky font, people just hate it because it looks distinctive and it stands out. This is a bit dystopian to scream "NO FUN ALLOWED"....

Oh my, you guys came from ’90s or ’00s with your Comic Sans. I myself forgot this font ever existed, I see it nowhere these days.

It’s beyond awful, just get yourself some link to Google Fonts at least, and explore the myriads of much better looking fonts in every possible way. That’s exactly the problem with aesthetics perception of the FOSS community, having this subjective ‘oh but I like it’ stand on absolutely mediocre shit. I’m very happy that by some (unknown to me) reason modern Gnome (45) looks (and works) so good.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Post by walteweiss »

sanitycheck wrote: post #81
addicted wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There you go proving that it’s not just that many Linux users have a bad design sensibility, but worse, they will defend bad design as good design. Not only do you defend it, even your defense proves that Comic Sans is a bad design, because matching the needs of what it’s used for (in this case a business setting, where fun fonts are not allowed) is one of the highest factors in good design. And you display another b…

> 1. Have bad design ideas. 2. Defend those bad design ideas. 3. Insist users and the people who want better design are wrong. Not sure if you're right or not about Linux, but what you've laid out there has been Apple's approach for the past 20+ years and it's been working out pretty OK for them!

Yeah, just the company making the best UI/UX and basically leading the way for everyone. So bad indeed that their just smartphone department worth more than some countries GDP.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Post by sintax »

IshKebab wrote: post #19

Does screen capture actually work reliably yet? I hope they leave X11 as an option until it does.

You could use sunshine (https://github.com/LizardByte/Sunshine) + moonlight (https://github.com/moonlight-stream/moonlight-qt). To be honest, at least for me, it works better than most of the RDP/VNC stuff.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Post by chlorion »

brnt wrote: post #121
vlovich123 wrote: post #90

I enabled wayland recently and there’s been a lot of annoyances to the point that I wonder why I bother considering X11 works without these issues. For example: * Chrome needs a bunch of extra flags to launch in Wayland mode * Firefox needs extra flags to launch in Wayland mode * Xwayland is just broken on Nvidia with both sides refusing to compromise (implicit vs explicit synchronization - Nvidia refuses to add impl…

I have three laptops each with Intel graphics, each from a different generation. They all have the same show stopping (as in screen locking gotta reset) bugs after a fresh distro install, no adjustments. But ofcourse, Wayland isn't the problem...

Wayland has been flawless for me, but for others not so much.

Every thread about wayland has people claiming it's broken yet they aren't reporting bugs or providing useful information at all, just vague complaints.

Many people experience no issues with wayland, and some people do experience issues, but without any information nothing can be done to even attempt to fix things. It's possible in many cases that something is misconfigured, or a known issue that has been fixed in newer releases of whatever you are using, or a genuine bug that hasn't yet been discovered. Nobody will ever know though.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Post by kabes »

mardifoufs wrote: post #140
beebeepka wrote: post #128

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Wow, is this what the Nvidia Linux experience is like these days? Is it even worth it anymore?

Nvidia, even on Wayland since the latest 545 driver, works just fine if you use the proprietary drivers.

My issues started since driver 545

Re: KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Post by Modified3019 »

beebeepka wrote: post #130
tormeh wrote: post #106

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Using Wayland on NixOS with AMD GPU. I have done exactly nothing to make Wayland work and it has none of this bugs.

But you don't have rtx, peasant! Seriously though, it's been a while since I've had serious issues with AMD cards on Linux. I was very annoyed with the state of my rx5700 when it first launched back in 2019. We've come a long way

Yeah the typical AMD experience on linux is about as good as should be expected. It’s a shame that there’s such a complex mix of potential problems when it comes to using AMD cards for GPU passthrough after needing to reset/reassign them.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Post by bayindirh »

mardifoufs wrote: post #140
beebeepka wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, is this what the Nvidia Linux experience is like these days? Is it even worth it anymore?

Nvidia, even on Wayland since the latest 545 driver, works just fine if you use the proprietary drivers.

If your card is supported by the latest proprietary driver, of course.

Also, NVIDIA nukes the open drivers by providing a crippled firmware for them, but this is another story.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Post by brnt »

vetinari wrote: post #145
brnt wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have three laptops each with Intel graphics, each from a different generation. They all have the same show stopping (as in screen locking gotta reset) bugs after a fresh distro install, no adjustments. But ofcourse, Wayland isn't the problem...

Maybe if you told us, how to replicate this show stopping bug so we could it try ourselves, someone could fix it then. Wayland being the problem or not.

I did, there was no interest.

Re: KDE Plasma 6.0 Is Enabling Wayland by Default

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Post by [deleted] »

brobinson wrote: post #74
lxe wrote: post #72

Wayland doesn't fractionally scale chrome, discord, vscode, spotify, beeper, and other appimage and non-native applications. So even if KDE enables it by default, most users will have to switch back to X.

>Wayland doesn't fractionally scale chrome, chromium, chromium, chromium, chromium, and other appimage and non-native applications. The absolute state of desktop applications in 2023. Everything is a web browser. God help us all.

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