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They also “do not log searches or in any way tie them to an account”. So you essentially have to make the same leap of faith as you would with a commercial VPN.
The VPN doesn't know what I search for, it "only" knows what host I connect to and all the associated metadata.
Is Kagi really that good or is their Astroturfing game just next level? I've never heard anyone say anything bad about it - and we're still talking about a $10/month search engine. Something that has been historically free at all times.
I'm blown away. They really are that good
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> Looking forward to the inevitable "Kagi sells user data" investigative report. Who would they sell the data to? Google? Ohhhh noooooo... More seriously, as long as it's paired with a "But their search results are still better than Google's trashfire", I'm not sure it would matter. Their tagline is "Fast, accurate, and ad-free", not "Fast, accurate, ad-free, and private."
Maybe try reading more than one sentence. "We care about data protection: We will be good stewards of any personal information you share with us. We do not log or associate searches with an account. More at our privacy policy." literally on the main page. Smh.
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Do they provide "personalized results" like google claims? That would seem to imply they -must- attach searches to your account, wouldn't it?
https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/website-info-personalize... AFAIK the personalized results are not based on your search history, rather a personalized list of blocked, lowered, raised, or pinned domains. I think some people share their lists, not unlike PiHole.
Looking forward to the inevitable "Kagi sells user data" investigative report. The simple truth is that unless they make themselves explicitly liable to users if they are ever caught doing this, that the irresistable urge to monetize user data will tempt even the most well-meaning firm into sin. The ONLY solution is to make 'sinning' an existential threat to the firm. IANAL but I believe this can be done if ownership…
That said, if we did lie or change that, we'd be in immediate breach of our privacy policy (https://kagi.com/privacy), and as a result be a very easy target for a lawsuit. Given that we're intentionally not VC backed, between the horrible press this would be and the actual costs of fighting such a lawsuit, I expect not much would be left of Kagi afterwards. We are liable to users, in a pretty existential way.
Is Kagi really that good or is their Astroturfing game just next level? I've never heard anyone say anything bad about it - and we're still talking about a $10/month search engine. Something that has been historically free at all times.
When you start searching a lot for professional reasons (e.g. rust the language vs rust the game), Kagi's value is a no-brainer.
Is Kagi really that good or is their Astroturfing game just next level? I've never heard anyone say anything bad about it - and we're still talking about a $10/month search engine. Something that has been historically free at all times.
In fact, we even axed our referral bonus program a couple months back to ensure that no third party had anything to gain in promoting Kagi. Recently, that included saying "no" to an independent journalist who explicitly asked for referral bonus for their readers. All you see is organic.
I really can't make clear enough how good Kagi is. I've tried all the competing emerging search engines as they've had their 5 minutes of fame. They don't compare to kagi. it's the first google rip and replace I've ever tried. Pony up the $10 a month and put your money where your mouth is on "let's pay for products instead of being sold to advertisers."
Ten dollars a month!? Ha ha ha, no.
I think Kagi search quality has a coding bias. Searches related to physics,hardware,math are basically identical to google or noticeably worse. My coding related searches are usually much better with much less SEO spam than google. This might be a function of just how much larger the market for coding related content is online.
The good news is as the community expand, so will the feedback, and we'll be able to improve overall. The even better (and quite surprising) news is that we could be better than eg. Google on any topic at all, which tells me that the ML magic is not actually magic, and we will be able to outperform them in other domains as the community grows, the feedback increases, and our code becomes better.