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The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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RISUG is indeed a great contraceptive, but when talking about its benefits for HIV we should be incredibly careful . RISUG isn't a cure-all. Transmission is still possible through microtears and directly through the skin of the glans penis and the meatus. And RISUG does nothing to prevent female->male transmission. It's far too easy for "RISUG inactivates HIV in some components of semen" to transmute into "It's ok ba…

female to male transmission rates are really low in general.

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Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Uhm, it involves cutting open your scrotum. The idea that people will casually do this is ... hilarious.

You must be young. Vasectomies are a perfectly normal and routine operation in later life. I'd wager a large percentage (if not a majority) of age 50+ men in the US have them done. It hurts for a weekend, and then it's over, not a big deal. This sounds like a significant improvement over the current procedure.

"I'd wager a large percentage (if not a majority) of age 50+ men in the US have them done"

In my sample group, it's not as large as you think. I'm a 43 year-old post-vasectomy father and out of a group of ten close male friends/relatives I've encountered 2 close calls and 2 oops babies. And these are intelligent responsible men. The majority of the excuses range from "I just never got around to it" to "I don't want to get cut". Seriously?

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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This will also let us stop hearing "men's rights activists" whine about child support. Didn't want to pay child support? Should have gotten the shot!

Tell that to the guys who are provably not the biological father, but are still forced by the courts to pay child support.

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Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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This will also let us stop hearing "men's rights activists" whine about child support. Didn't want to pay child support? Should have gotten the shot!

Tell that to the guys who are provably not the biological father, but are still forced by the courts to pay child support.

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Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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This will also let us stop hearing "men's rights activists" whine about child support. Didn't want to pay child support? Should have gotten the shot!

Tell that to the guys who are provably not the biological father, but are still forced by the courts to pay child support.

Apparently I am excessively optimistic.

If a dude acts as a father to the child and then wants to walk away with no responsibility, he's an asshole regardless of DNA and I have no sympathy. Fatherhood doesn't just stop, even if it turns out to be some other guy's sperm. The kid doesn't care about genetics. All the kid knows is that his dad didn't care enough to stay in his life and doesn't want to take care of him.

I do think it is unfair, in a "life isn't fair" way not a "they shouldn't have to pay" way, when the child was the accidental product and the father is on the hook. It is still the best thing for the kid to be supported, but I think it is awesome that there is technology that can keep the situation from ever coming up in the first place.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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female to male transmission rates are really low in general.

All sexual transmission rates are pretty "low," if Wikipedia's sources are accurate. Even anal intercourse is under 2%.

Per incidence; that's a 1 out of 50 chance every single time.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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> ... and a latex condom from a reliable brand"... Aren't they all required by law to be reliable?

I have no idea what the current regulatory climate for condom manufacturing is. I just know that I'm going to trust an established brand that's sold by the box in the drug store over a no-name brand sold singly from a vending machine in the bathroom of a bowling alley.

Don't knock the bowling alley machine. Condoms are like cameras. The best one is the one you have with you and actually use. :)

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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You must be young. Vasectomies are a perfectly normal and routine operation in later life. I'd wager a large percentage (if not a majority) of age 50+ men in the US have them done. It hurts for a weekend, and then it's over, not a big deal. This sounds like a significant improvement over the current procedure.

"I'd wager a large percentage (if not a majority) of age 50+ men in the US have them done" In my sample group, it's not as large as you think. I'm a 43 year-old post-vasectomy father and out of a group of ten close male friends/relatives I've encountered 2 close calls and 2 oops babies. And these are intelligent responsible men. The majority of the excuses range from "I just never got around to it" to "I don't want t…

I'm in my mid-twenties, and was seriously considering it when I thought it was reliably reversible. My reading at the time indicated that this wasn't the case and there was a good chance that you'd stay sterile after reversing the operation. This struck me as a very good reason not to get a vasectomy.

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Fuck no. Hormones (and most other injections) has way more impact / risk / effect than a tiny cut. I cut myself several times a month, badly a few times year. (too lazy to wear gloves when doing yard work, accidents etc). I know what a cut is / does. No idea what putting crap in my body will do.

You cut yourself badly a few times a year? To each his own, but that sounds fucking crazy to me. I manage to live my life both without artificial hormones and without non-emergency invasive surgery and I haven't had as much a a paper cut in as long as I can remember, probably over 10 years. Also I am not pregnant or had any pregnancy scares.

I should have defined "badly" as many people probably think badly == stitches. badly to means means enough to leave scar, needs cleaning & covering (bandaide).

Re: The Best Birth Control In The World Is For Men

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Uhm, it involves cutting open your scrotum. The idea that people will casually do this is ... hilarious.

The incisions are very small, made under local anesthetic, and recovery time should be quick. Doesn't that sound less frightening than hormonal birth control?

Local anaesthetic is hardly a selling point to me. I'd prefer general, even thought that has the slight risk of death. Better than the (in my experience) 100% chance of "whoops! We'll give you another shot of that and give it a few more minutes to set in."

That's happened to be with 2 back surgeries, one on my arm, and every filling I've ever had done.

Anyway, I'd get this procedure done in a heartbeat anyway.

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