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Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by endisneigh »

maxsilver wrote: post #150
endisneigh wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what product or service has lasted indefinitely? Google will compensate those who adopted it, life goes on.

Microsoft Windows still exists, and can open executable compiled for it 25+ years ago. Microsoft Office still exists, and can still open Word / Excel / etc files from 25+ years ago. Adobe Photoshop still exists, and can open PSD files created 25+ years ago. Microsoft Xbox One X still exists, and is backwards compatible with titles from the OG Xbox release, as far back as 22 years ago - https://www.xbox.com/en-us/game…

None of these are managed solutions tied to hardware, so the comparisons are irrelevant. What hardware that [inherently] requires a managed service still exists after 10 years? Jamboard inherently required the cloud for "jams". Google will allow for migration to other services that do the same thing and will compensate for the hardware.

Zune is dead as well as the store and your other comparisons are disingenuous at best.

Furthermore, you will still be able to use the Jamboard as a whiteboard and connect it to your computer. It will not stop working. These comparisons are just terrible.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by leoedin »

justapassenger wrote: post #120
nerdjon wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't really matter how many people were affected, the point is that people made an investment (and not a small one) and its being shut down. And it isn't like this is the first hardware that Google has abandoned, but they turn it into ewaste since it's tied to the cloud.

It’s being shutdown after 8 years. That’s not a bad lifespan. Most electronics are obsolete but that age and replaced with new ones. Especially at businesses - it’s already amortized by then and reached end of life. Google sucks, but I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.

The lifetime of "appliance" type electronics has always been much longer than that. In my first job, in 2012, I was using electronic test equipment running Windows 95. Anything industrial has a lifetime of 10+ years. Most electronics doesn't need to be cutting edge - and non-cutting-edge electronics hasn't really changed much in the last 15-20 years anyway.

If we want this type of technology to actually be useful, it should have a lifetime somewhere near the thing it replaces. Otherwise schools and universities will get burned once and go back to whiteboards. 8 years isn't really acceptable.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by turnsout »

killjoywashere wrote: post #144

We have a few of these in our office. The experience is decent, but, man, I really miss chalkboards. I just don't find whiteboards, physical or virtual, as compelling. I actually make some use of the Jamboard app in meetings occasionally, but usually I'm at a desk with my feet up, using a tablet to draw while everyone else is remote. Not only has Jamboard never been a first-class citizen, no whiteboard is a first-cla…

Yes! Not to mention, chalk is a simple nontoxic product made from abundant natural resources, while dry erase markers are plastic waste. It's so unnecessary.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by shortrounddev2 »

killjoywashere wrote: post #144

We have a few of these in our office. The experience is decent, but, man, I really miss chalkboards. I just don't find whiteboards, physical or virtual, as compelling. I actually make some use of the Jamboard app in meetings occasionally, but usually I'm at a desk with my feet up, using a tablet to draw while everyone else is remote. Not only has Jamboard never been a first-class citizen, no whiteboard is a first-cla…

I worked in offices that had whiteboards and I never found anybody used them

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by foobiekr »

jasonjayr wrote: post #130
justapassenger wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s being shutdown after 8 years. That’s not a bad lifespan. Most electronics are obsolete but that age and replaced with new ones. Especially at businesses - it’s already amortized by then and reached end of life. Google sucks, but I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.

8 years ? For a display that's essentially a graphics terminal to a remote app? That customers are paying for ongoing service? For hardware that is still 100% working? Honestly, what is really stopping it from being supported? Can they unlock it so a secondary market can load OSS onto it and keep it going for the next 10-15 years?

It's incredibly wasteful. The tech industry produces prodigious amounts of waste with a deliberate purpose (revenue).

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by moate »

justapassenger wrote: post #120
nerdjon wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't really matter how many people were affected, the point is that people made an investment (and not a small one) and its being shut down. And it isn't like this is the first hardware that Google has abandoned, but they turn it into ewaste since it's tied to the cloud.

It’s being shutdown after 8 years. That’s not a bad lifespan. Most electronics are obsolete but that age and replaced with new ones. Especially at businesses - it’s already amortized by then and reached end of life. Google sucks, but I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.

This worldview is fine for running a company and making money, but it isn't the only one that exists. The whole IoT push over the last 10 years is new, and a lot of consumers haven't had to think of questions like "what happens when tech support goes away for my digital whiteboard" or "what happens to my fridge when company is goes bankrupt", so I don't think patting them on the head and saying "This sucks for you, but it could have been worse" is really a compassionate stance.

You're underlying thesis is correct though, you're not legally required to care about other people when you design or sell products.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by foobiekr »

endisneigh wrote: post #151
maxsilver wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft Windows still exists, and can open executable compiled for it 25+ years ago. Microsoft Office still exists, and can still open Word / Excel / etc files from 25+ years ago. Adobe Photoshop still exists, and can open PSD files created 25+ years ago. Microsoft Xbox One X still exists, and is backwards compatible with titles from the OG Xbox release, as far back as 22 years ago - https://www.xbox.com/en-us/game…

None of these are managed solutions tied to hardware, so the comparisons are irrelevant. What hardware that [inherently] requires a managed service still exists after 10 years? Jamboard inherently required the cloud for "jams". Google will allow for migration to other services that do the same thing and will compensate for the hardware. Zune is dead as well as the store and your other comparisons are disingenuous at…

Managed solution _makes it easier_ not harder.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by echelon »

gdcbe wrote: post #128
justapassenger wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand outrage, but I think it’s misdirected in this occasion. It’s an 8 year old product, that because of the price, age and small niche like had customers that you can count in hundreds.

Still. Our company only bought it half a year ago, at least 3 of them. So no, we won’t get to enjoy it for 8 years… Edit: nvm, my CISO just confirmed me that this apparently “only” affects first generation users. We have the newer Board 65 types that will continue to be supported for the things we use it.

My last company bought a bunch of these just before the pandemic to help facilitate working with remote offices. All the big conference rooms had one.

Nobody wanted to use them, and they went completely unused to my knowledge.

Re: Google Ending Support for Jamboard

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Post by Thorrez »

justapassenger wrote: post #120
nerdjon wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't really matter how many people were affected, the point is that people made an investment (and not a small one) and its being shut down. And it isn't like this is the first hardware that Google has abandoned, but they turn it into ewaste since it's tied to the cloud.

It’s being shutdown after 8 years. That’s not a bad lifespan. Most electronics are obsolete but that age and replaced with new ones. Especially at businesses - it’s already amortized by then and reached end of life. Google sucks, but I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.

When was the last one sold? If it wasn't 8 years ago, then that one has a shorter than 8-year lifespan.
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