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Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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No word on price. When Raspberry Pi first launched, this was the prime feature of the thing. Can we expect same price as the Raspberry Pi 4? (at the respective RAM level) Edit: found it here: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/ So the 4 GB model is 60$, which is 5$ more than the 4 GB model of the Raspberry 4 when that was launched: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-.…

Engadget has the price at $60 for 4gb and $80 for 8gb.

https://www.engadget.com/the-raspberry-pi-5-uses-the-company...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#153
I really wish they would have just built in PoE+ rather than requiring a hat; the hat dramatically reduces the choice of case hardware.

Now I want to see what they do with the RPi Zero.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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post #128

So a Raspberry Pi 27W USB-C Power Supply and they also showing an active cooler. Seems like this thing is running even hotter than the previous version. Btw am I the only one who hates to buy their power supply because the USB-C cable is not removable?

All laptop power supply with USB c have non removable USB c cables. Probably that no one can blame them for burning or low power with third party cables.

Most or many, but not all. Apple Macbook supplies are a counterexample, e.g. https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/product/MX0J2B/A/96w-usb-c-pow...

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#155
Wow, time is moving fast. I am still happy with my rpi3 as a MPD server to feed Sonos with a custom, local audio stream.

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#156
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean with vague information? There is an entire blog post describing the product: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

It depends on what "need" means. I'm pretty sure you can take a 400W TDP Threadripper and run it without active cooling. It will throttle down to run at whatever speed (well, TDP) that doesn't fry it. The Raspberry Pi does the same thing.

If your goal is to get the highest score on every benchmark, then yeah, you need active cooling. That has been true on every Raspberry Pi, I think. (I don't remember if the 1 needed active cooling. I did not have any. I also remember it taking over a day to recompile Linux! Still faster than setting up a cross compiler at the time ;)

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean with vague information? There is an entire blog post describing the product: https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/

This is pretty bad: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling? "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis, and like most general-purpose computers, it will perform best with active cooling. The Raspberry Pi Case for Raspberry Pi 5, with its integrated fan, is one way to provide this." They pose a question themselves, and don't even answer it. Of course something will perform best w…

I hate it when someone answers a yes/no question with something other than yes or no.

Here’s my proposed edit:

Q: "Does Raspberry Pi 5 need active cooling?

Original A: "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis…”

Better A: "For modest workloads, no. For heavier workloads, you will get better performance with active cooling. Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis…”

Re: Raspberry Pi 5

#160

I'm happy that they're upgrading the pi, but it's not exactly lightweight computing in terms of power (they recommend a 27W PSU) or performance/watt (see: your cell phone) To me the charm of the raspi ecosystem was always in giving you a very low power, "always on, almost no power draw" linux environment. Oh well, I guess there's always the older versions or the zero for that.

yeah, i miss the 5-10W early days
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