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Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…

When was the last time you used it? They just had a UI change here recently and it's better than the original. It's cheaper for personal and family accounts compared to 1password. I've been a paying customer of Bitwarden for a long time now and have never experienced any of these issues.

FYI, 1password has taken almost 1 billion dollars in vc investment. They have an obscene amount of pressure to grow.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

#152

Bitwarden is great. I use it everywhere and it manages passwords well. The key feature for me is the ease of use of "organizations", which allows me to share passwords with my wife easily. A lot of accounts regarding our financials or children are shared, so we both need the password. Bitwarden makes this trivial.

I used to do this until I realized that my wife and I could get away with just using a single Bitwarden account.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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It’s a great way to get further locked into Apple’s ecosystem. Good luck if you ever need to move to an alternative platform.

iCloud Keychain has csv export. There’s no more lockin than there is with other password managers.

Note: This is sort of true but is highly misleading. csv export is only possible on a Mac (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251108577). So, iPhone/iPad/PC users are pretty much out of luck Additionally, I don’t believe passkey’s are exportable at all. Lack of actual functioning backup options is the primary reason I’m not using iCloud Keychain, so I would love to have these issues fixed.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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Then your iCloud account gets banned and you lose everything.

Should’ve had better backups.

You can’t backup the entire iCloud Keychain, only export to csv which doesn’t contain everything. (For instance passkey secrets)

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

#155

Open source and easy to use https://www.passwordstore.org/

This is a bit different. It's not a password manager app, it's more a standard for storing passwords encrypted with GPG in ~/.password-store and a reference CLI implementation. Several GUI clients exist to interact with the passwords, as well as tools to import from other password managers etc.

It sounds like a good idea, but I'm worried that a client could be at risk of a software supply chain attack - I don't think I will have the expertise to evaluate each new version.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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post #86

FYI - Bitwarden took $100M in VC money last year. At some point, the pressure to aggressively monetize will unfortunately happen. https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/06/open-source-password-manag...

You are right, but I think it is relatively easy to just export Bitwarden data and import it to KeePassXC if it will be necessary.

What would the benefit of doing that over continuing to use Bitwarden (or a fork of it) with a self-hosted backend?

Surely this is the inherent benefit of using open source?

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

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post #57

The title is misleading. This is not fully "free and open-source". I'm actually puzzled by the licensing structure. Bitwarden server is dual-licensed [1] - part of it is licensed with AGPL (Open Source) - some features are licensed with a source available Bitwarden license Now, even the Open Source core requires you to register if you want to self host. This is to provide you with complementary services like security…

Why does everyone assume that if something is open source it must also be free and licensed under permissive license allowing you whatever? Briefly looking at their website I got the impression that it was meant for transparency reasons rather than in the spirit of free and open-source.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

#158
Is there a desktop client for Bitwarden that isn't Electron-based yet?

I tried this years ago and didn't like it. Not only because Electron, but I thought it was missing a lot of basic features (folders/organizing passwords was sorely lacking).

I'm not looking to try it again, to be clear, just curious. KeepassXC won my heart.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

#159

I wanted to like Bitwarden, due to its “open source” nature. But 1Password is really miles ahead, and it's a little ironic, as 1Password 8 went through a major refactoring to a Node-enabled UI, which many people disliked, and it's still miles and miles ahead. I tried teaching my father to use Bitwarden for the sole reason that it seemed to be translated into my native tongue. In his use, Bitwarden turned out to be co…

It's interesting to see some comments here suggesting that people should just export their bitwarden db to keepassxc (due to the VC backing), & then the other side suggesting a closed-source alternative due to better UX. Two distant sides of a spectrum.

Re: Bitwarden: Free, open-source password manager

#160

1Password is miles ahead. Its UX is WAY better, as is its cryptography architecture and its security whitepaper ( https://1passwordstatic.com/files/security/1password-white-p... ). Bitwarden doesn’t even come close.

It lacks the one feature most of the world cares about, though: support for Android.
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