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Knowing what public health professionals think about this topic is pretty much table stakes for being able to make any sensible kind of contribution to the discussion. Otherwise it is like arguing the finer points of Rust lifetimes with people who couldn’t write ‘Hello World’ in Python. In this case I think the relevant position is widely known. Supporting people to have safe sex works, whereas shaming them for havin…
As an older millennial, it’s interesting to me observe the difference with which HIV/AIDS and COVID has been treated. While untreated HIV infection is more lethal than COVID, COVID has killed more people in the past 4 years than HIV/AIDS did in the past 40+. My childhood was filled with warnings and media depicting the tragedy of HIV/AIDS, the surrounding bigotry, and the history of this pandemic still has some cache…
In contrast, many people in the US lead a lifestyle that puts them at almost no risk for AIDS. Furthermore, a large majority / plurality of Americans are Christians where the religion actively encourages monogamy. (And this is my opinion,) the large group of people who practice monogamy consider the lifestyle so easy that "oh, we should just encourage monogamy as a solution" is a snap judgement with a clear lack of empathy for people who aren't monogamous.
(I should point out that even though I am monogamous, I've had circles of friends that are very promiscuous. Each group has a lot of trouble empathizing with the other lifestyle. I had a lot of ridicule in college and at Burning Man for not being promiscuous; and both my father and grandfather encountered the same thing in the US Navy.)
So, it's taken awhile for the monogamous majority / plurality to really understand that the solution for the AIDS crisis isn't to just promote monogamy. One example is very clear in George W. Bush's memoir. Even though he is conservative, Christian, (and I assume monogamous,) his stated goal in his presidency was to solve the AIDS crisis; and he implied that purely teaching monogamy wasn't going to work. He had a lot of regret that incidents in his presidency took his focus away from the AIDS crisis.
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Knowing what public health professionals think about this topic is pretty much table stakes for being able to make any sensible kind of contribution to the discussion. Otherwise it is like arguing the finer points of Rust lifetimes with people who couldn’t write ‘Hello World’ in Python. In this case I think the relevant position is widely known. Supporting people to have safe sex works, whereas shaming them for havin…
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So queer people should remain celibate? Other methods of protection fail. People lie about the status. People don't know their status. Know what's ridiculous is that these drugs cost so much money and companies like Gilead can engage in "revenue maximization" schemes at the cost of the health of US citizens... and then apparently win lawsuits with their Big Pharma war chests.
If the 30k per figure was accurate (I don't think it is?) it would be certainly unreasonable for the rest of the society to subsidize it. So I guess, no. But they shouldn't expect other people to finance their sex lives.
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No - just a guess based on the fact that me and the people around me tend to know ~250 people. Ie. there are probably 250 people who would find out if I got diabetes and died. Those people would then probably take a little more care of their health, and take steps to avoid the same fate.
> Ie. there are probably 250 people who would find out if I got diabetes and died. Those people would then probably take a little more care of their health Around 14% of Americans have diabetes, so I don't think that really pans out.
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So queer people should remain celibate? Other methods of protection fail. People lie about the status. People don't know their status. Know what's ridiculous is that these drugs cost so much money and companies like Gilead can engage in "revenue maximization" schemes at the cost of the health of US citizens... and then apparently win lawsuits with their Big Pharma war chests.
There's wide, wide middle ground between celibacy and the debauched status quo.
I know it's not popular, but AIDS is just what we have now. If people continue living like this, there will be another, and it might be worse. Hell, we probably already dodged a bullet with Monkeypox due to concomitant COVID precautions.
When AIDS and MS are manageable diseases, you know you live in a miraculous society.
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HN isn’t the place to argue about public health policy in relation to HIV/AIDS unless you have something new or interesting to add to the topic. Literally every time this topic comes up on HN we have stacks of comments making the same repetitive talking points about gay male promiscuity. Quite apart from the rather odious and obvious agenda behind these comments (which surely don’t stem from any serious concern about…
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What I cited are excess deaths rather than Covid deaths. No one labelled them. The baseline death rate went up after Covid arrived. You can argue they weren’t Covid. But you need another explanation. And it needs to be global; this happened in every country. The rise in deaths began with Covid, and continues now. The baseline death rate has shifted higher.
>But you need another explanation. Oh, I have the explanation, and stacks of studies to back it up, but I'll be banned and downvoted for explaining it here. Have a nice day.
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> but my guess is that it would never spread there because there's more protection mechanisms, respiratory is like a process running unprivileged on an open port 80. Genital is port 22 and anal-genital is rdp or teamviewer with admin privileges on a server. Dude, considering we're not even done yet with a worldwide pandemic caused by a deadly respiratory virus, I'd probably stop with the bad analogies.
Covid is not remarkably deadly. How long will people insist it is? Don’t they teach history in the US?