I'm terrified of seeking help for mental illness because certain diagnosis can have legal impacts. It is a sad truth, no one has a real response for it except "get over it", and it is very, very difficult to get support for political reforms to protect the mentally ill. I am also terrified the medications we force on some mental health patients, especially injected long-term ones, are purely for the benefit of the ca…
Cannabis use disorder and subsequent risk of depression and bipolar disorder
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#152Just my personal take, wouldn’t seek to push others to adopt it. Smoking weed hurts your ability to think and learn. If you have responsibilities to children or shareholders etc you shouldn’t be doing it. If you don’t and it doesn’t hurt others who are relying on you have at it, but still sparingly as not to be abusing your body and mind.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m asking if their definition of safe means zero risk. Because that’s the same rationale that the WHO uses to claim alcohol has no safe level of consumption (I.e., there is no level of alcohol consumption that is zero risk). So either they think there is a level of cannabis use that is zero risk, or they have a different definition of safe consumption that they could elaborate on.
Any amount of alcohol increases your risk of cancer: https://www.cancervic.org.au/cancer-information/preventing-c... I don't think the same can be said for cannabis use
Even if we concede the cancer risk, there are other risks that may be unarticulated.
(That said as someone who abstains from both alcohol and cannabis)
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m asking if their definition of safe means zero risk. Because that’s the same rationale that the WHO uses to claim alcohol has no safe level of consumption (I.e., there is no level of alcohol consumption that is zero risk). So either they think there is a level of cannabis use that is zero risk, or they have a different definition of safe consumption that they could elaborate on.
Yes, if we're dealing in absolutes, I'm sure there is a level of cannabis consumption that is zero risk for some people. Check out CBD.
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#156Just my personal take, wouldn’t seek to push others to adopt it. Smoking weed hurts your ability to think and learn. If you have responsibilities to children or shareholders etc you shouldn’t be doing it. If you don’t and it doesn’t hurt others who are relying on you have at it, but still sparingly as not to be abusing your body and mind.
Do your views on smoking cannabis apply to alcohol as well? Or do you adapt a more reasonable appropriate time and place for that type of drug? I not sure if it hurts peoples ability to learn, even if some people have some memory impairment. But cannabis and other drugs change the way people think, and that can be good or bad depending on many factors. Have people created great creative works under the influence of c…
Alcohol addiction is very noticeable. People around you also notice. Alcohol will destroy both your mind and body. You're much more likely to be aware that you're addicted to alcohol than weed.
Weed addiction is slower. It starts out as only beneficial - until it isn't. Weed will only affect your mind. Unlike alcohol, it won't directly do physical harm to your body. The negative effects to your body from weed is indirect - such as getting lazy, munchies, etc.
>I not sure if it hurts peoples ability to learn, even if some people have some memory impairment.
This has to be a joke right?
Do you have family members who are below 18? If you truly believe what you said, you'd allow them to smoke weed and go to class.
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#157Obviously people with mental discomfort are more likely to seek comfort in mind altering substances. That said, as someone who is bipolar, has bipolar friends and has used cannabis for a significant portion of my half-century on Earth, cannabis usage is proportional to mood instability in myself and my friends. I have taken extensive breaks and noticed I am much more mentally resilient and less emotionally labile whe…
I learned a new word: labile. "Apt or likely to change."
is it grammatically correct to say "there is nothing more non-labile than a temporary code"
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I was going over the top because gp is insinuating a moral argument rather than a health argument based on their interpretation of a bad headline. Cannabis Use Disorder is not the same as occasionally puffing a doobie with Alice on the weekend. > Caffeine starts off as a physical addiction unlike marijuana. Caffeine also does not require a lot of use from the substance in order to become physically addicted, unlike m…
And aside from the jitters, what harm does caffeine cause? Does it cause break downs in families and car fatalities like alcohol? Does it trigger latent schizophrenia in susceptible individuals like canabis? Does it create zombies like whatever it is they're consuming in San Fran?
I have one cup of coffee in the morning but there was a time when I was having 4-5 cups and it was affecting my healh negatively.
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> eat an edible to go to sleep. I could care less if people get high, but as a general principle I will never consume a drug to help me sleep unless there’s a really good (doctor consulted) reason. I think we’re just setting ourselves up for an unhealthy dependence when we do that. (besides weed always had the opposite effect on me)
I wake up at least 4 times a night and get horrible sleep unless I eat an edible before bed. Just 5mg THC helps me sleep through the night. I just started regularly consuming marijuana this past year and it's been great as a sleep aid. I've tried a couple of prescription drugs and they make me feel awful.
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Obviously this is not a real argument against what you said, but the same thing happened with smoking. The tobacco companies said that there might be some set of factors that both caused lung disease, and caused smoking. As opposed to the alternate hypothesis that smoking caused lung disease. As is generally thought now, umbrellas do not cause rain but smoking does cause lung disease. Cannabis is federally illegal in…
> Obviously this is not a real argument against what you said, but the same thing happened with smoking. They showed the link between smoking and cancer with a mountain of empirical evidence, including tests on mice. https://www.mskcc.org/news/how-do-cigarettes-cause-cancer > Cannabis is federally illegal in the United States Nobody cares anymore. > I'd highly advise you to consider only the known benefits of using c…
Yes, it does now. From what I've seen, people complain about how long it took for official action in labeling to take place on tobacco smoking, but it's up to them how much effort they want to put into preventing a repeat situation. For a somewhat related example, some people think the FDA puts so much effort into preventing a repeat of thalidomide that it's a net negative for the entire organization to exist at all, and suggest expanding the category of "legal but not (effectively) mandated" to include almost all proposed drugs. "Never again" is much harder and more costly than many people think, because you have to get it right (or err in the direction of preventing the type of outcome in question) every single time, but if a single thing gets through, it's all over.
Make your decisions as rationally as possible.
> I suggest a war on ice cream.
Ice cream has some pretty funny statistics that I don't really buy as making actual sense. I'd limit usage quite heavily.