So cool. An episode of I Dream of Jeannie is on WTTG at 11 AM.
9/11 in Realtime
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#152Does anyone else remember how the Internet died that day?
There was so much traffic from everyone trying to check the news that every major news site went practically offline.
The only way to find out what was happening was to find a TV. Lucky I was working with a friend to install a touch-screen PC in his car. We'd added a TV tuner to the system too. We raced to the underground car park and pulled the car out onto the street and sat there watching the news unfold on his 7" widescreen.
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#153I was working in the airline industry when this happened. My girlfriend (now wife) and I had just started on the way into work, we signaled each other over to the side of the road, and talked for a few moments... and I headed in to work. I was in shock for weeks. I was ontop of the towers but 2 months before that, and possibly one of the best pictures of the two of us was taken there. ... I've been there. I know that…
Technically we have Richard Reid, the "shoe bomber" to thank for having to remove footwear, from an attempt which happened later the same year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_63_(2...
But your point is still valid!
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
IMO this doesn’t seem disrespectful, more like an attempt at authenticity. For those who used computers at that time, it will remind them of what it was like, and for younger people, it helps communicate the era (before you were born, but post-GUI) that 9/11 happened in.
>IMO this doesn’t seem disrespectful, more like an attempt at authenticity. For those who used computers at that time, it will remind them of what it was like, and for younger people, it helps communicate the era (before you were born, but post-GUI) that 9/11 happened in. I mostly agree with you. However, I visited Las Vegas and stayed at the New York, New York casino hotel a few months after the towers came down and…
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#155That's incredible! What an amazing project. The classic Macintosh desktop is also very well done. Does anyone know the source code for the desktop used? I found the projects in the "About" open source notices section of the desktop. It uses: - https://github.com/robbiebyrd/platinum which itself is based on: - https://github.com/npjg/classic.css - https://github.com/ticky/classic-scrollbars for the scroll-bars
> The classic Macintosh desktop is also very well done Two things, in my opinion: trying to be whimsical and "fun" for such a grave topic is disrespectful, and I don't understand what value appropriating Apple's logo and the "finder face" in the corner add to the 9/11 retrospective experience So, fine, maybe I'm just not happy-go-lucky enough to appreciate why this needs to be a classic Macintosh theme, but I am 100%…
So you’re judging other people’s reactions to the event? I don’t think we should do that. It doesn’t make you right. People are going to have diverse ways of responding and processing it. We should be tolerant and accepting of that.
What we should not be tolerant of is people who judge other people first, and try and make them wrong. I think you can express your own feelings on this, without imposing on others like that.
It’s important to have clarity about how you feel, including what you feel about other people’s reactions, and accept it. When you observe yourself reacting to someone else’s response, rather than making it about them being wrong and judging them, focus on how you feel, and ask yourself why you feel that way.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah. But would you say that your view was the prevailing one among people your age? Or, as I think you're implying, that you were more the odd one out, including amongst your peers? Because unless I'm assuming wrong, I think your experience is in line with what I said. My experience was different than yours though. It wasn't until I started mixing with more "grown ups" during college that I realized that actually th…
Sure, I'm not trying to disagree, but to share the sympathetic experience I had on the other side of that generational divide. My view certainly was not the prevailing one, as polls showed and Bush's re-election proved; but my peers at the time were a bunch of musicians, artists, activists, nerds, and weirdos, living in a big coastal city, so I was not alone in opposing the wars. Part of the horror of that experience…
Yep! I did think this is what you meant, but wasn't entirely sure, and was interested in your perspective.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The classic Macintosh desktop is also very well done Two things, in my opinion: trying to be whimsical and "fun" for such a grave topic is disrespectful, and I don't understand what value appropriating Apple's logo and the "finder face" in the corner add to the 9/11 retrospective experience So, fine, maybe I'm just not happy-go-lucky enough to appreciate why this needs to be a classic Macintosh theme, but I am 100%…
So you’re judging other people’s reactions to the event? I don’t think we should do that. It doesn’t make you right. People are going to have diverse ways of responding and processing it. We should be tolerant and accepting of that. What we should not be tolerant of is people who judge other people first, and try and make them wrong. I think you can express your own feelings on this, without imposing on others like t…
He's judging the experience of a website.
What's it got to do with other people's reactions?
He's expressing an interpretation, not a feeling.
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#158I was on my way to my eighth grade civics class that day, in northern Virginia. I remember before class, a lot of people started talking about the Pentagon exploding (many kids had parents working there) and that's when it started to get out exactly what happened. People left school early, getting picked up by family members, etc.
I distinctly remember someone asking my civics teacher, "who could have done this?" and she said she would bet her life it was Osama Bin Laden. That was the first time any of us had ever heard that name or understood what terrorism actually meant. We were all too young to remember any other bad things happening in America, besides perhaps Columbine and had been pretty convinced America was invincible after finally "beating" communism in 90's and Desert Storm.
Over the next year or so, we talked about it so much and were inundated with so much coverage that I became almost completely numb to these sort of events, and eventually extremely depressed.
It's taken me becoming a parent to reconnect with the horror of what happened and now I have a hard time sitting through coverage of Ukraine as it relates to its impact on children.
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#159I was working in the airline industry when this happened. My girlfriend (now wife) and I had just started on the way into work, we signaled each other over to the side of the road, and talked for a few moments... and I headed in to work. I was in shock for weeks. I was ontop of the towers but 2 months before that, and possibly one of the best pictures of the two of us was taken there. ... I've been there. I know that…
Technically we have Richard Reid, the "shoe bomber" to thank for having to remove footwear, from an attempt which happened later the same year: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_63_(2... But your point is still valid!
Alas, they decided the underwear bomber was also a big threat...
Thus the MM wave machines where they can see your privates.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna38561251 is a good example.
The TSA is a bad idea done badly.
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#160There was a piece of footage shown on British TV. Street scene, camera tilted slightly upwards, and something flashes across the screen from top-left to bottom-right. Fast, just a few frames. Never saw it again (admittedly I didn't look very hard). Don't suppose anyone knows what I'm talking about, do they? Would be nice to know it's not a false memory.