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Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by Semaphor »

leokennis wrote: post #98
deepspace wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is such a weird experience to do a Google search on someone else's computer after being used to Kagi. I recently requested a small usability enhancement, and it was implemented within a few weeks. Zero chance of that happening with any other search engine. The search results are consistently better than anyone else's, including DuckDuckGo, so I am, and will remain, a happy paying customer.

Out of curiosity, what searches or types of searches get you desired results on Kagi but not on DDG? I tried Kagi for about a week, and it felt more or less identical in quality to DDG, just infinitely more expensive as DDG costs nothing.

It’s hard to get specific examples, but I was happier with the results back when I tried it in beta (after several years of using DDG exclusively and only very rarely needing the !g escape). It’s not always (pure default, things change with personalization like lowering/blocking/raising/pinning) a giant difference, but simply the result you want being further up, and fewer useless filler results between hits.

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by reacharavindh »

skydhash wrote: post #144
Phemist wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to say: the search engine frog has long been boilt and it is amazing what crap people have to put up with when searching for anything. How jarring the experience of seeing TV commercials is after years of Kodi, is how the experience is of moving back to an ad-supported search engine after now months of Kagi.

Youtube doesn’t show ads in my country. Anytime I use a vpn or I travel, I can’t believe how bad the free tier is. My twitch consumption has gone way down because of the ads. Watching the last NBA season was so annoying. I felt more than half of the broadcast was ads.

Which country is it that YouTube would not shows ads?!

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by flexagoon »

BbzzbB wrote: post #22
freediver wrote: post #2

Vlad from Kagi here, thanks for posting. The RSS feed unexpectedly broke (edit: the feed is back up! [3]) just as we published the blog post, in the true spirt of "small web" :) Should be up in 30 minutes which will enable the site to function too (it uses the same feed). This has been a personal pet project of mine and I spent considerable time getting my hands dirty with the code, as the team was busy with other in…

Isn't this more likely to have been inspired by marginalia* than a personal blogs thread? Doesn't seem to have the same results from the Apple Watch example, but it's what immediately came to mind for me when I read this post's title. * https://search.marginalia.nu , commonly mentioned on HN https://hn.algolia.com/?query=marginalia

Kagi actually uses Marginalia as one of its result sources, especially if you enable the "non-commercial" lens!

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by flexagoon »

freediver wrote: post #35
elashri wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we are here talking about organic ads (sponsorship, …etc.) not YouTube as platform ads.

Thanks for clarifying. Yeah we should establish a criterion around that. Curating YT is much more work it feels like. Let's see how "Small YouTube" [1] feels like to begin with and we can take it from there. [1] https://kagi.com/smallweb/?yt

By the way, you can perhaps check https://nebula.tv for a list of good YouTube channels (not all of them are great IMO, but a lot of people who make content on Nebula fit the "small web" criteria)

Now that I think of it, perhaps you can call Nebula "the Kagi of video streaming". Maybe you guys could collaborate somehow in the future ;D

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by VapidLinus »

freediver wrote: post #2

Vlad from Kagi here, thanks for posting. The RSS feed unexpectedly broke (edit: the feed is back up! [3]) just as we published the blog post, in the true spirt of "small web" :) Should be up in 30 minutes which will enable the site to function too (it uses the same feed). This has been a personal pet project of mine and I spent considerable time getting my hands dirty with the code, as the team was busy with other in…

Are English "Small Web" results included even if I use the "Sweden" search region?

I noticed the example result for useyourloaf wasn't included if I switched it to "Sweden" and not sure if this is just an oddity or if the entire feature is nerfed because I just leave my locale on all the time.

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by mackrevinack »

Subsector6616 wrote: post #89
unshavedyak wrote: post #48

This sort of stuff makes me really happy to be a Kagi subscriber. Not only do i get value out of Kagi, but this shows me that the money is being used to develop Kagi in a way i agree with. By comparison, Spotify (just picking one of my subs) feels hostile to me. I pay them, but would cancel in a heart beat if i felt i had options. I really appreciate Kagi's development matching what i feel like i'm buying. Thanks Kag…

Music streaming is such a mess. I've tried a ton of services in an attempt to find one that's decent, and have found embarrassing problems for all of them. Spotify: Really hostile, manipulative, and terrible to artists. On my end I hate how commercial the homescreen is, and the CarPlay interface is just a user-hostile to a degree that is frankly unsafe disaster. TIDAL: Pretty good in a lot of ways. They pay their art…

spotify's homescreen does my head in as well. im paying them but they still shove ads in my face. ive been meaning to try spicetify for a while now, it let's you customise the desktop ui so you can probably hide the homescreen completely

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by marginalia_nu »

manuelmoreale wrote: post #32
marginalia_nu wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kinda wish there was a sort of proper blog-DMOZ. Would make this sort of stuff a lot easier. Right now everyone and their grandma is curating their own blog list. Lots of wasted effort that could be saved by collaborating somehow.

I agree but it’s incredibly hard to collaborate on this kind of projects because everyone has their own take on what should and shouldn’t be included. Curation is still hard. Also, I personally don’t mind having different curated directories because those will reflect the taste and interests of the curator.

I figure collaborate on answering the easy questions, is the website online, is it chock full of spam, is it a blog about horses or about keyboards, etc. Some of that could be automated (like onlineness, large change detection, etc.), but some of it needs manual supervision.

Right now everyone who is running any sort of curated discovery service needs to answer these same questions about roughly the same site.

Re: Kagi Small Web

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Post by ploum »

freediver wrote: post #41
caskstrength wrote: post #7

And yet in the article they reference their Discord channel and Twitter sigh

Rooting for small web does not mean one needs to be against other technology. For example Kagi uses Google and even hosts on GCP - I think Google's technology and people are great, it is just the business model that is rotten and contributes to the deterioration of the web. And interestingly enough, at least Discord (and to some extent Twitter) are trying to have a business model that does not put more ads down your…

Are you on Mastodon or on the fediverse btw? Any plan for Kagi to have an account there? (not really required, I don’t think that companies should necessarly be on social networks, that’s mostly a waste of time)
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