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Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by nytesky »

jraph wrote: post #61
mabbo wrote: post #49

"If everyone would just stop replying, this would end! Why are you all still hitting reply all?!" -latest reply all on every reply-all storm. In my early days at Amazon, around 2012-2015, this would happen frequently enough [0]. I pretty quickly learned the best thing to do was to ignore the conversation and never think about it again rather than try to 'help'. [0] - too many new products and orgs set up new mailing…

Never really happened to me, but Thunderbird has a pretty good feature for this case: "Ignore message thread". I'm sure other mail clients have this feature as well. If someone is bothered by such a thread, it's really easy to avoid.

gmail has the “mute” feature single key press ‘m’ away.

I admit have been tempted to respond to some reply-all maelstrom mailstorms to herald the mute key…

Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by jeroenhd »

ethbr1 wrote: post #141
jeroenhd wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the point I think, the dots aren't causing any issues here, some people just assume their account is f.m.lastname@gmail.com and many of them are too stubborn to accept that it's not. They never had an email address with or without dots that's made up of the same letters as your email address. Their email address is probably very different (maybe they forgot to add a number, or a middle initial, or typed Gmail…

Exactly. The dots are useful from a UX perspective, as it makes "incorrectly addressed" email more obvious. I've spent way too much time thinking about this. Well, specifically about the kind of person who would use an email address they don't own to (a) buy a house, (b) apply for a FL sheriff's job, (c) conduct financial transactions, etc. (all actual examples I've received). You think you have a bead on how ignoran…

I think there's also a distinct possibility that the senders just have the wrong email address, especially when it contains a name.

You could own steve.brown@gmail.com but someone you only occasionally do business with might have accidentally put down steven.brown@gmail.com when you first met. Emails back and forth will work (because they can reply to your emails) but when they try to send you email, someone else will receive it.

This can also go unnoticed (i.e. when someone sends an email stating "when are you sending the documents?" -> "I already did, maybe they ended up in spam, here you have them again"). People probably won't notice unless the unintended recipient tells the sender that they got the email address wrong. I imagine that might happen a few times, but after a few years of other people using your email address, you'd stop bothering.

Re: *@gmail.com

#153

Post by nytesky »

rcarmo wrote: post #3

This is a great reminder that Gmail ignores dots on the left side of the @ symbol, which means I am constantly getting e-mail for other people. The “+” tagging was a great idea, but the fact that incorrect address matching has become a “feature” (and not fixed over decades) plus constant spates of spam has made me believe there’s nobody left at the helm who actually understands e-mail. I’ve kept my Gmail addresses fo…

The “+” alias feature rarely works for me when registering for sights. They say invalid.

I have used “.” Variations to create multiple accounts on a service.

I wonder what the limit is?

Can I do …first.name@ and first……name@ and so on for infinite names!

iCloud has auto anonymous emailing with plus, Firefox does to, but tying my services to such a feature rather than even just an email seems fragile.

Re: *@gmail.com

#154

Post by dellamonica »

ludwik wrote: post #91
daigoba66 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t that functionally the same as “ignore dots”? Meaning they can just strip out the dots when matching email addresses: either on login/signup or mail routing.

The point is "ignoring dots" doesn't lead to "constantly getting e-mail for other people" (because there are no other people that own the "dotted" version of the email).

It does though. My gmail account has a dot. For some reason someone with a similar name to mine must have for believed his address was the non dotted version of mine and to this day I keep getting emails addressed to this other person... and yes, it is a real person who I've managed to contact.

The point is that without the dots rule I'd never get those emails, and the senders would get their message bounced back right away.

Re: *@gmail.com

#155

Post by brotherjerky »

dinkleberg wrote: post #148
nmeofthestate wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a great reminder that Gmail ignores dots on the left side of the @ symbol, which means I am constantly getting e-mail for other people. Genuinely confused - which other people? There are no other people with your Gmail address but added/removed '.' characters. What you're seeing is people sending emails to the wrong email address - nothing to do with presence or absence of '.' characters. Allowing addresses…

I’ve got firstname.lastname@gmail.com and apparently someone with my same name believes they have the address with no dot, as they keep signing up for services like Facebook with it and sharing it with their friends who email me. It is quite the odd situation. I reply to their friends saying they have the wrong email, but they don’t seem to believe me. And they keep signing up for things despite presumably never bein…

I have my last name at Gmail, and the number of people who think it's their email is absurd

Re: *@gmail.com

#156

Post by mabbo »

_notreallyme_ wrote: post #128
mabbo wrote: post #49

"If everyone would just stop replying, this would end! Why are you all still hitting reply all?!" -latest reply all on every reply-all storm. In my early days at Amazon, around 2012-2015, this would happen frequently enough [0]. I pretty quickly learned the best thing to do was to ignore the conversation and never think about it again rather than try to 'help'. [0] - too many new products and orgs set up new mailing…

At amazon in 2010, someone sent an email to everyone on the "all" mailing list to ask if anyone had seen it. A reply-all storm ensued, and despite several people asking to stop hitting the reply-all button, it continued for several days. The management had to chime in and sometimes threatened people with punishment if they continued participating to the reply-all storm. If you ignored the conversation you may not hav…

The eventual solution was that email lists with more than k (500?) people on it required an admin to approve all messages going out on that list.

It really simplified things.

Re: *@gmail.com

#157

Post by tiltowait »

fingerlocks wrote: post #79
TheDong wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a bug. Instead of clicking the "login" button on discord's home page, you clicked the "Open discord in your browser" button. This, by default if you're not logged in, takes you to a create account flow. The prompt you entered your _username_ into was the "Pick a display name" prompt. If you enter, say, "user" it silently adds numbers to your displayname to make a new username ("user1234"), rather than redi…

> I know people who use hacker news are on-average much less tech savvy than the average discord user Sarcasm? Serious question. I used Discord exactly once, many years ago, and it appeared to be mostly children playing video games. I hear things have changed, but it’s hard to imagine a more tech savvy group than HN.

I spend a lot of time on Discord, write bots, etc. Maybe it’s just the communities I hang out in, but I’ve seldom seen a less tech-savvy user base.

Re: *@gmail.com

#158

Post by rcarmo »

dellamonica wrote: post #154
ludwik wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is "ignoring dots" doesn't lead to "constantly getting e-mail for other people" (because there are no other people that own the "dotted" version of the email).

It does though. My gmail account has a dot. For some reason someone with a similar name to mine must have for believed his address was the non dotted version of mine and to this day I keep getting emails addressed to this other person... and yes, it is a real person who I've managed to contact. The point is that without the dots rule I'd never get those emails, and the senders would get their message bounced back rig…

This. This would save me days of time filtering mail.

Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by rcarmo »

nmeofthestate wrote: post #86
rcarmo wrote: post #3

This is a great reminder that Gmail ignores dots on the left side of the @ symbol, which means I am constantly getting e-mail for other people. The “+” tagging was a great idea, but the fact that incorrect address matching has become a “feature” (and not fixed over decades) plus constant spates of spam has made me believe there’s nobody left at the helm who actually understands e-mail. I’ve kept my Gmail addresses fo…

> This is a great reminder that Gmail ignores dots on the left side of the @ symbol, which means I am constantly getting e-mail for other people. Genuinely confused - which other people? There are no other people with your Gmail address but added/removed '.' characters. What you're seeing is people sending emails to the wrong email address - nothing to do with presence or absence of '.' characters. Allowing addresses…

I want invalid e-mails to be bounced back, period (if you’ll pardon the pun).

Re: *@gmail.com

#160

Post by rcarmo »

myko wrote: post #104
rcarmo wrote: post #3

This is a great reminder that Gmail ignores dots on the left side of the @ symbol, which means I am constantly getting e-mail for other people. The “+” tagging was a great idea, but the fact that incorrect address matching has become a “feature” (and not fixed over decades) plus constant spates of spam has made me believe there’s nobody left at the helm who actually understands e-mail. I’ve kept my Gmail addresses fo…

That's a feature, it is by design and some folks like it. I do. Surprising to hear people are hitting your inbox with the oddball period.

I get HUNDREDS of emails that I never signed up for due to this. If Gmail bounced them (as it should), it would be a godsend.
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