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Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by acruns »

FredPret wrote: post #142
mythz wrote: post #53

I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…

I became a new MacOS user when the M1 was released. One thing I really like is that it's so much more similar to Linux than Windows. Many of my favourite Linux server tools also run on Mac. They're either included or are a "brew install x" away. Everything from cron to nginx (for local web dev) works like a charm. Combine this with the extreme ease of doing office-type work on a Macbook: Excel works, printing / scann…

people can't manage to block "malware" on a Windows system but somehow manage to use a dev tools? and the idea that a Mac costs the same or less as a dell/hp is ludicrous. the cheapest MacBook air is $1000, while a Windows laptop is $500. sorry to destroy your ideology but at least be honest and say I prefer a Mac and can afford it suck windows can pound sand.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by vladvasiliu »

mort96 wrote: post #139
gumballindie wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not Linux (depending on your line of work). Wider hardware choice, easier to upgrade, and no corporate oversight. Doesn't cover all use cases but it's a good option these days.

The problem with PC hardware is that yes, there's more choice, but it's all mostly bad. Nobody other than Apple manages to put a decent and reliable trackpad on their machines for example, and all PC laptops I've used have at times gotten really loud. If you're okay with non-Windows OSes, hardware choice is the main reason to pick Apple machines. Also, Linux is coming along rather well on Apple Silicon machines.

FWIW, I find current gen (starting with 8th) HP EliteBooks decent enough. They work perfectly in Linux (actually better than Windows, since for a while some bits weren't recognized...). They're quiet unless I'm compiling something (if I don't use Windows, which for some reasons gets the fan spinning even when it's supposed to be asleep). The trackpad is good, even though it's worse than my 2013 MBP's. The main issue I have with them is the absurdly bad displays. Even the top-of-the-line display is ridiculously bad.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by ta988 »

Now wait for the same PM to go work on vscode and github.

"We see .idea files in your repository, do you know that VSCode can make your hair grow again"

"You are running Linux, but have you tried Linux in Windows with WSL2, free 30 days license by clicking here"

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by matkoniecz »

simiones wrote: post #140
giancarlostoro wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wanted to add a new user account on my new Windows 11 system. It came with Windows Home right. So when I went to add one, it told me that feature is disabled because I have poor man's Windows, go to this other program. So I go to program B. Guess what program B told me? It told me I was using poor man's Windows to go back to program A to add a new user. I had to do it via command line. After I was about to remove m…

Unfortunately Linux is still far from ready. It's awesome that it can run Steam games quite seamlessly, and it can even run non-Steam games if you fiddle around a bit and find the magic incantations. But - I tried using it for things like GoG, and quickly found out that there is actually no way of running GOG on Linux, even with Proton/Wine, unless maybe if I go and install a bunch of other 3rd parties. Not to mentio…

"GoG" what is that?

> Unfortunately Linux is still far from ready.

Depends on person. I use it for over decade, exclusively for few years since my Windows install bricked itself and recovery partition few years ago (and I discovered that I have no idea how I should reinstall Windows)

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by nailer »

matkoniecz wrote: post #155
simiones wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately Linux is still far from ready. It's awesome that it can run Steam games quite seamlessly, and it can even run non-Steam games if you fiddle around a bit and find the magic incantations. But - I tried using it for things like GoG, and quickly found out that there is actually no way of running GOG on Linux, even with Proton/Wine, unless maybe if I go and install a bunch of other 3rd parties. Not to mentio…

"GoG" what is that? > Unfortunately Linux is still far from ready. Depends on person. I use it for over decade, exclusively for few years since my Windows install bricked itself and recovery partition few years ago (and I discovered that I have no idea how I should reinstall Windows)

Good Old Games. It's a game store, like Steam. Used to be for old games hence the name.

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by matkoniecz »

nightski wrote: post #71
stetrain wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it was a Microsoft Rewards promotion. Something I don’t recall opting into. https://promos.microsoftrewards.com/US/en/SS/88/rules Edit: Chrome isn’t even installed, I use Firefox.

Yeah Microsoft Rewards is super annoying, and I'm not sure who even actually engages with it. But if you want to use windows you can remove MS rewards from your account and the notifications stop [1]. [1] https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/how-to-opt-out-of-...

How often this setting is reset by Windows to default value?

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by calciphus »

FredPret wrote: post #142
mythz wrote: post #53

I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…

I became a new MacOS user when the M1 was released. One thing I really like is that it's so much more similar to Linux than Windows. Many of my favourite Linux server tools also run on Mac. They're either included or are a "brew install x" away. Everything from cron to nginx (for local web dev) works like a charm. Combine this with the extreme ease of doing office-type work on a Macbook: Excel works, printing / scann…

Every time I click the play button on my keyboard, Apple Music launches and asks if I want to start a subscription. There's no (normal) way to make it so that play will launch, or even reliably play, Spotify.

MacOS is covered in non-removable Apple adware like this but somehow always gets a pass.

... yes apparently I can install an app that force quits Music every time it launches, or I can modify system permissions, but...why can't I just uninstall it?

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by m000 »

Also: The Verge using clickbait titles to get people to read poorly-written non-news.

Yes, the pop-up is annoying and Microsoft shouldn't do that. But also popping-up the message over a game seems to be a UI glitch. And I'm not sure even what "malware-like" means: A lot of malware uses pop-ups, but pop-ups are not unique to malware. Also a borderless pop-up with rounded corners, perfectly positioned over the system notifications area is quite malware-unlike.

Finally, the pop-up does not try to get people to ditch Chrome but switch to using Bing as the default Chrome search engine. Which is low quality reporting, if not biased reporting. (This has been corrected in the meantime but original title is still preserved in the HN title.)

Re: Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Win11 to get people to ditch Chrome

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Post by gentleman11 »

mythz wrote: post #53

I'm a big fan of WSL, which has kept me on Windows for years more than I otherwise would have. But I can't stand the scammy adware infused OS Windows has become and will be moving to Apple Silicon full-time when the next gen M3 Desktop hardware is out. As a recent M2 Macbook Air owner I'm surprised how much software supports ARM/Apple Silicon natively, where everything I use daily as a .NET developer worked OOB [1].…

But hn worships the Microsoft ceo. That tall praiseworthy man who has taught us all what we should aspire to. He is a brave, glorious man

See also: fake search results when looking for chrome in bing

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/6/23736289/microsoft-bing-ch...

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