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Post by tivert »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #120
tivert wrote: post #116

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I don’t know how any sane person thinks a bunch of larpers - even if they themselves don’t see them as such - can defend themselves against a willing US military…

> I don’t know how any sane person thinks a bunch of larpers - even if they themselves don’t see them as such - can defend themselves against a willing US military…

I know, that's why Afghanistan is a shining star of liberalism in the Central Asia. The Taliban never was able to defend itself from the willing US military and was defeated years ago.

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Post by joemi »

eastbound wrote: post #77
Espionage724 wrote: post #71

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Audiovisual material is the public forum of modern times. It’s important to be able to review and criticize a movie and reupload it on public forums. Imagine not being able to show the Nuremberg Trial to pupils in class, because it would be copyrighted. It would give free hands to war criminals. Imagine not being allowed to show negative footage of Biden because it’s copyrighted and the White House doesn’t grant the…

But youtube isn't a public utility. The public can use it, sure, but they're supposed to abide by the TOS, because it's a privately owned company.

Downloading things from Youtube isn't the solution. Turning Youtube into a public utility is what's needed, in this case. Or even simpler: people need to start using archive.org instead of youtube.

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Post by zirgs »

hamhock666 wrote: post #137
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #120

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I don’t know how any sane person thinks a bunch of larpers - even if they themselves don’t see them as such - can defend themselves against a willing US military…

I mean what about the Viet Cong? I think the main idea is that a well armed population creates a different relationship with the government. It is much harder to round up people and send them to camps if they can actually put up a fight. The idea is to avoid that conflict in the first place by having that threat of civilian retaliation. Yes the government could still do it, but it would be costly.

The Americans are so lucky that they only have to fear their own government.

I don't fear my government. I fear the Russian government. It's very unlikely that my government is going to send me to a camp. But the Russians totally could - they are already doing that in Ukraine.

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Post by grumple »

vkou wrote: post #61
can16358p wrote: post #36

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So PayPal's policy is "guilty until proven innocent". Nice, hope they go bankrupt.

You're free to try running a payment processor with a mantra of "Innocent until proven guilty." You'll be a honeypot for every scammer, fraudster, and con artist ready to take advantage of that policy, your processing fees will be through the roof because of chargebacks, and the only people who will use your platform will be the aforementioned scammers, fraudsters, and conmen. I'm sorry for the GP poster's situation,…

Payment processors could assign reputation to longtime users, and they could have a vetting process to users as well, just like banks do. Get their full credit history, all the info of their owners, etc.

They could also communicate problems more clearly and provide better support to those who are sanctioned.

It's a reasonably solveable problem.

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zlg_codes wrote: post #146
tivert wrote: post #116

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Do you have a more substantial breaking down of the text and the intended meaning? It doesn't make sense for it to only apply to the government. The Constitution puts limits on government, not the other way around. In fact, it lists a variety of things that are recognized as inalienable rights, such as the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Gonna try to twist that to opposite day, too?

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Post by jpc0 »

Espionage724 wrote: post #80
echelon wrote: post #75

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> There's plenty of software and means to host your own video platforms. There's plenty of ways people can start their own countries and currencies too.

Ok I'm curious; how can a person start their own country and currency? Video hosting is as easy as hosting Piwigo, GNU mediagoblin, Lychee, Zenphoto, or tossing something together in PHP. All that is free and open-source.

Hosting the software isn't free, neither is storing the content to be served, neither is serving the said content.

I think you vastly underestimate the amount if bandwidth video takes.

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Post by pkulak »

netsharc wrote: post #100
danuker wrote: post #92

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It's funny how a trillion-dollar company is playing cat-and-mouse with a few free software projects, and losing most of the time.

I have a feeling Google/Alphabet/YouTube aren't investing a lot of money into this, because they know their opponents have almost infinite resource, of free time and dedication. Besides how would you like to work in the YouTube "DRM" team, where every few weeks you'd show up to work and the news is "well, they cracked it again, your last few months' of work is useless.".

YouTube has it's hands tied behind its back by the 100s of apps that have been deployed over the last two decades. Shutting down youtube-dlp, but also losing ad revenue from, say, every Roku box in the world, is not a tradeoff anyone is signing on for. So best they can do is nibble around the edges and hope they make it hard on downloaders while not flipping the entire apple cart.

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Post by thesuperbigfrog »

tivert wrote: post #116
agensaequivocum wrote: post #107

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Except one is an explicitly enumerated constitutional right.

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>> The words "the people" mean the government, just like it means in the First Amendment (properly understood). I don't know how anyone with a functioning brain could interpret it to mean that individual citizens have a right to own military-style guns.

This very question was settled by SCOTUS in District of Columbia v. Heller:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller

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