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Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by MagnumOpus »

true_religion wrote: post #126
patmorgan23 wrote: post #106

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The Ivy's all have multi-billion dollar endowments. They should go without a single donor dollar for a generation and be fine And even expand.

Sure but why stop a practice that is working so well already? It's just 10 slots out of 100s.

It's over 200 out of about 2000 at Harvard, plus another 200 for athletes... Though of course the bigger issue is that Harvard only has 2000 places for undergrad despite a $50bn endowment, in order to create some artificial scarcity.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by hnhamdani2 »

pfannkuchen wrote: post #37
princeb wrote: post #25

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> immigrants to the US always ended up in high level positions this is a myth. even if you just look at asian immigrant groups alone, many groups do very poorly economically - the burmese, hmongs, nepalis etc are all poorer than the average american. in fact, i think the only asian ethnicity that is over-represented in business leadership are not the chinese nor the japanese but the indians, and i don't even think th…

That doesn’t make it a myth, it just means that not every immigrant group has an equal chance. Do you think there is some super granular discrimination going on though? Seems more correlated with how developed the country of origin is.

I think, it's more like, it's not pure meritocracy as well. It's kind of a mix between meritocracy, community role model and a sprinkle of nepotisms.

While it's ingrained in the culture, to be the best you can be for certain communities, having tons of people with the same ethnicity/community/caste benefit you as well. People don't go climbing up the higher echelons on pure meritocracy.

There is a reason Indians are over-represented among other Asian ethnicities and that is not pure meritocracy.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by throwawayadvsec »

ttoinou wrote: post #33
throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22

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The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. They believe more in the education system so they push their kids more into higher education. Most of the high education school in france have a somewhat fair competitive exam to filter the candidates

>They believe more in the education system so they push their kids more into higher education.

No, not really, most people seems to still believe it.

>Most of the high education school in France have a somewhat fair competitive exam to filter the candidates

Yet preparatory schools are still disproportionately full of rich white kids.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by throwawayadvsec »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #67
throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22

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The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

> In France, most immigrants kids don't even know the possible paths to get into a top school. What do you mean? As an immigrant to France when I was in 3rd grade [0], I knew in a couple of months that I had to go to a good high-school, to get into a good prep school, to get into a good grande école. Everybody knows this. And everybody knows how to get there: be good at math, and have good grades in general. [0] In F…

I know people from the suburbs who didn't even know what a prep school was until they were adults.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by throwawayadvsec »

dustincoates wrote: post #29
throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22

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The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

As an immigrant to France who wants my kids to succeed… how do I learn these paths?

When I talk about these paths, I mostly mean prepas and grande écoles, but that doesn't mean I recommend them.

Yeah you're set for life if you succeed there, but the student suicide rate in those schools is also astonishingly high because of the pressure/competition.

If I were you, I'd just teach my kids to code, learn, build stuff, sell stuff, and use AI correctly. IMO school is an outdated concept, in any country.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by throwawayadvsec »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #115
throwawayadvsec wrote: post #22

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The US are a younger country and it's full of immigrants/children of immigrants. Most of the money here is old money. There are dozens of implicit rules. In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. Because you have to know all the tricks in the book to get anywhere. From my POV getting into Ivy League seems as simple as getting a high SAT, appl…

> In France, most immigrants kids don't even know the possible paths to get into a top school. Not true. What happens, and not only in France (it's like that in the UK as well), is that primary and secondary schools that are in not very good areas are not ambitious for their pupils. They'll say average is fine, going to a technical college is very good, etc. so in the end those pupils do not think of taking the "high…

>is that primary and secondary schools that are in not very good areas are not ambitious for their pupils.

And where do you think the vast majority of immigrants live? In Boulogne Billancourt?

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by mytailorisrich »

throwawayadvsec wrote: post #156
mytailorisrich wrote: post #115

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> In France, most immigrants kids don't even know the possible paths to get into a top school. Not true. What happens, and not only in France (it's like that in the UK as well), is that primary and secondary schools that are in not very good areas are not ambitious for their pupils. They'll say average is fine, going to a technical college is very good, etc. so in the end those pupils do not think of taking the "high…

>is that primary and secondary schools that are in not very good areas are not ambitious for their pupils. And where do you think the vast majority of immigrants live? In Boulogne Billancourt?

I am sure you understand that not taking a path is not the same as not knowing the path...

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by HWR_14 »

MagnumOpus wrote: post #151
true_religion wrote: post #126

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Sure but why stop a practice that is working so well already? It's just 10 slots out of 100s.

It's over 200 out of about 2000 at Harvard, plus another 200 for athletes... Though of course the bigger issue is that Harvard only has 2000 places for undergrad despite a $50bn endowment, in order to create some artificial scarcity.

200 people in each class at Harvard donated buildings to get in? That seems hard to believe.

Re: Nvidia’s CEO Is the Uncle of AMD’s CEO

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Post by ttoinou »

throwawayadvsec wrote: post #153
ttoinou wrote: post #33

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In France having a teacher as a parent is a better indicator of whether you'll get into a top school than being rich. They believe more in the education system so they push their kids more into higher education. Most of the high education school in france have a somewhat fair competitive exam to filter the candidates

>They believe more in the education system so they push their kids more into higher education. No, not really, most people seems to still believe it. >Most of the high education school in France have a somewhat fair competitive exam to filter the candidates Yet preparatory schools are still disproportionately full of rich white kids.

Ive been in scientific preparatory schools, you only stay there if you're genuinely good. Causation != Correlation
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