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Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by palata »

wkat4242 wrote: post #72
hgsgm wrote: post #69

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The client is French. Including a French copy of the message is entirely mundane.

The French invented the word chauvinism :) They take their language very seriously likewise. I work for a French company and even though the official language is English you're kind of a second rate citizen if you don't speak it. Or write last names in all caps or quotation marks like > :) They just are that way :P

> They take their language very seriously likewise. [...] second rate citizen if you don't speak it.

Try to not speak English in a US company, I guess?

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by Glawen »

Foobar8568 wrote: post #110
wkat4242 wrote: post #72

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The French invented the word chauvinism :) They take their language very seriously likewise. I work for a French company and even though the official language is English you're kind of a second rate citizen if you don't speak it. Or write last names in all caps or quotation marks like > :) They just are that way :P

And if you ever work in any other countries, you would see the same in different language. Work in a Swiss company? Hope you enjoy German. At one stage, French people has to stop this self deprecating and think elsewhere is much better and only French does this or that. It is not.

So much this, try in Germany, you will eventually get ghosted if you don't make the effort of learning German.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by palata »

sealeck wrote: post #147
Foobar8568 wrote: post #110

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And if you ever work in any other countries, you would see the same in different language. Work in a Swiss company? Hope you enjoy German. At one stage, French people has to stop this self deprecating and think elsewhere is much better and only French does this or that. It is not.

Depends on the Swiss company – some speak French!

And some speak Italian!

Small note though: I highly doubt they speak German... that would rather be Swiss-German.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by midoridensha »

kelnos wrote: post #103
dspillett wrote: post #30

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I block ads not because I'm completely anti-advert. I'm anti being-stalked-through-my-entire-life-and-having-my-details-sold-like-I'm-a-cheap-peice-of-meat, and unfortunately ATM blocking that also means blocking most online adverts. So I draw the line before sponsorblock. At least the content creators get a better cut of that than they get from YouTube monetisation & youtube can't take it away from them as easily at…

I'm curious why you aren't anti-ad. Ads are psychological manipulation. Why would you want to subject yourself to that? I was recently visiting some family, and saw the garbage my 7-year-old nephew sits through to get to the YouTube video he wants to see[0]. I can only assume we're just training a new generation of kids to believe that ads are a normal, inevitable part of every kind of media consumption. I agree that…

>I was recently visiting some family, and saw the garbage my 7-year-old nephew sits through to get to the YouTube video he wants to see. I can only assume we're just training a new generation of kids to believe that ads are a normal, inevitable part of every kind of media consumption.

Just like parents have a responsibility to teach their kids about safe sex, I think parents have a responsibility to teach their kids about ad-blockers.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by calcifer »

vasco wrote: post #142
p-e-w wrote: post #102

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The only countries where American law is irrelevant are Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran. Go anywhere else, and on closer examination you'll find that American law is in fact very relevant, with local governments often bending over backwards to accommodate US legal provisions. Copyright, financial regulation, and international travel are some of the areas where this is usually apparent, but far from the only ones…

Biggest army in the world, also the only reason most of europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2. This is something europeans forget when complaining about "outsized" US influence but then also don't invest in defense and keep being safe just by the grace of the US. This comes with a price. PS: I'm from europe

> the only reason most of europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2

That thought is the result of decades of successful US propaganda. The people who actually lived through WW2 in Europe thought different. This poll [1] asked: "In your opinion, which nation contributed the most to Hitler's defeat?"

[1] https://www.les-crises.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/sondage...

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by midoridensha »

carlosjobim wrote: post #93
imiric wrote: post #80

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20 years ago? Advertising has corrupted every public medium since the dawn of print media, arguably even before that. In the 19th century, it was quackery and false advertising in newspapers, making snake oil salesmen rich. In the first half of the 20th century, advertising started using propaganda tactics to psychologically manipulate consumers, as pioneered by Edward Bernays[1], making tobacco companies rich. Radio…

> advertising started using propaganda tactics to psychologically manipulate consumers Advertising and propaganda have always been the exact same thing, and in at least some latin languages it is plainly called propaganda in all occasions. As in people will say that they work in propaganda and universities offer degrees in propaganda.

>Advertising and propaganda have always been the exact same thing

They're really not, though they are similar in many ways. They have different connotations: advertising is done generally by for-profit companies trying to sell stuff and make money, while propaganda is generally done by governments trying to shift or control public opinion. We have different words for these things for a good reason.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by Glawen »

JodieBenitez wrote: post #143
Kuinox wrote: post #75

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> Or write last names in all caps or quotation marks like > :) Things we don't do much anymore in France.

Only because most text editors suck.

And half off the websites incorrectly treating é or è encoding, forcing you to omit these when writing your name.

It is incredible how badly foreign languages are supported

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by vasco »

calcifer wrote: post #155
vasco wrote: post #142

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Biggest army in the world, also the only reason most of europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2. This is something europeans forget when complaining about "outsized" US influence but then also don't invest in defense and keep being safe just by the grace of the US. This comes with a price. PS: I'm from europe

> the only reason most of europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2 That thought is the result of decades of successful US propaganda. The people who actually lived through WW2 in Europe thought different. This poll [1] asked: "In your opinion, which nation contributed the most to Hitler's defeat?" [1] https://www.les-crises.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/sondage...

So you agree that somehow the US has a stranglehold on Europe if they were able to make the continent believe what you say is a lie. Maybe you don't think it comes from WW2 or them having the biggest army, but then what is your explanation? Europe bends over just because?

The USA has military bases all over Europe with people and missiles. That started with WW2. How would they not have huge influence on what we do? No european country has a random military base in Ohio or whatever.

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by palata »

vasco wrote: post #142
p-e-w wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only countries where American law is irrelevant are Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran. Go anywhere else, and on closer examination you'll find that American law is in fact very relevant, with local governments often bending over backwards to accommodate US legal provisions. Copyright, financial regulation, and international travel are some of the areas where this is usually apparent, but far from the only ones…

Biggest army in the world, also the only reason most of europe has freedom today and not a german dictatorship is the US in WW2. This is something europeans forget when complaining about "outsized" US influence but then also don't invest in defense and keep being safe just by the grace of the US. This comes with a price. PS: I'm from europe

Can you really not think of a single instance where US interventionism was not welcome?

Re: Newpipe.net removed from Google search results due to DMCA take down request

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Post by midoridensha »

kerkeslager wrote: post #99
robertlagrant wrote: post #35

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As long as you avoid things that are paid for by ads, there's no moral problem.

Advertising is inherently immoral and it's our moral obligation to drive advertisers into bankruptcy. All advertisers are liars. Even when they're not directly saying untrue things, they're presenting a one-sided view of the truth, to the extent of being intentionally misleading. The harm done by these lies is incalculable. The distraction. The loss of self-esteem caused by ads always telling us we aren't enough, don…

This is really extreme and reductionist. Without advertising, you wouldn't even know that many products and services exist. You can't rely on word-of-mouth for everything.

Of course, so many advertisers have abused their power that blocking ads is a good choice for many reasons, but don't make the mistake of calling all advertising "evil". Without it, how do you know a new movie is coming soon, or that someone's invented and is selling a new computer peripheral, for instance?

The old-style small, highly-targeted, text-only ads that Google used to show alongside search results really were the pinnacle of advertising I think. They were great for learning about something that would fix whatever problem you were googling about.

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