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Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by aapl88889 »

soderfoo wrote: post #140
extr wrote: post #54

I say this as someone who loves twitter: it's cooked. I spent time on threads earlier today and it is the answer people have been looking for. Nobody has a better track record of giving the users the features they want, even if that means cloning them wholesale from competitors. And more importantly, nobody does hyperscale content moderation better than Meta. If you're a public figure and can get the same/larger enga…

>Twitter is more hostile than it's ever been. >The first time a blog post is written about the Epic Dunk that AOC had on Ted Cruz... How do you reconcile these two statements? I feel the performative "mic drop" moment is a major source of toxicity on Twitter. A breath of fresh air would be a place that promoted thoughtful and empathetic conversations.

It's apparently not hostile if you are epically dunking on people you disagree with.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by FranzFerdiNaN »

intsunny wrote: post #9

Given that Threads requires an app, and the app requires obscene permissions (health, etc) ... its hard not to think that Meta can't escape their set ways and this app is doomed to fail. The app serves Meta more than it does the public.

> Given that Threads requires an app, and the app requires obscene permissions (health, etc) ... its hard not to think that Meta can't escape their set ways and this app is doomed to fail.

THis is just peak Hacker News. Most people just click ok to get the stupid popup out of the way.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by imgabe »

gardaani wrote: post #90
imgabe wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where does Threads require access to health? I installed it on iPhone and it never mentioned anything about that. That is not required at all.

Have a look at the App Privacy for the Threads app: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/threads-an-instagram-app/id644... "The following data may be collected and linked to your identity: Health & Fitness, Purchases, Financial Info, Location, Contact Info, Contacts, User Content, Search History, Browsing History, Identifiers, Usage Data, Sensitive Info, Diagnostics, Other Data" You agreed to give all that data to Meta when…

It has to actually request the permission from iOS to get access to the data and it doesn't do that.

When I go to Settings > Privacy & Security > Health, Threads is not listed as an app that has access.

Maybe at some point in the future it will request access, and you can just deny it then if you don't want it.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

#154

Post by Mizoguchi »

soderfoo wrote: post #140
extr wrote: post #54

I say this as someone who loves twitter: it's cooked. I spent time on threads earlier today and it is the answer people have been looking for. Nobody has a better track record of giving the users the features they want, even if that means cloning them wholesale from competitors. And more importantly, nobody does hyperscale content moderation better than Meta. If you're a public figure and can get the same/larger enga…

>Twitter is more hostile than it's ever been. >The first time a blog post is written about the Epic Dunk that AOC had on Ted Cruz... How do you reconcile these two statements? I feel the performative "mic drop" moment is a major source of toxicity on Twitter. A breath of fresh air would be a place that promoted thoughtful and empathetic conversations.

Thoughtful and empathetic conversations is something few people want though. People like controversy and to some degree toxicity. So any new microbloging platform that wants to reach the user base of Twitter will have to turn into a version of Twitter at some point.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by MikusR »

pjc50 wrote: post #116
ggm wrote: post #28

I am unlikely to join. So, I ask from a distance: Have meta defined any public interest oversight What are they doing about hate speech, CSA and crime Do they have a penalty box or exclusions policy for politicians and political hacks and what appellate process exists Do they recognise the force of national laws in any specific jurisdictions beyond the USA How does meta intend dealing with Iran and china

> Do they recognise the force of national laws in any specific jurisdictions beyond the USA Yes: they recognize the GDPR and are therefore not launching at all in the EU.

They are not launching in EU due to DMA. Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp are all in EU.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by MikusR »

jug wrote: post #148
wraptile wrote: post #61

I didn't have any expectations and still left unimpressed. All of the dark patterns are already there. No timeline control, no web UI, everything is aimed at data harvesting and it brings absolutely zero new innovation. It's kinda sad that we can't make a better Twitter. Is that really it?

Bluesky has custom timeline control and web UI, and Mastodon is another potential option. For people saying it's not taking off, my Swedish community over at Mastodon is currently about as active as on Twitter. I think we're passing critical mass especially with the most recent exodus that filled the ranks even more. And yes it looks like not all but many are staying.

You can't even create an account on Bluesky.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by Mizoguchi »

WeylandYutani wrote: post #124
extr wrote: post #54

I say this as someone who loves twitter: it's cooked. I spent time on threads earlier today and it is the answer people have been looking for. Nobody has a better track record of giving the users the features they want, even if that means cloning them wholesale from competitors. And more importantly, nobody does hyperscale content moderation better than Meta. If you're a public figure and can get the same/larger enga…

The billions in ad revenue hasn't materialised for Twitter which is why Musk is becoming increasingly unhinged. The internet is a strange beast. Getting 50 million users is easy. Monetising them is hard. I stopped being impressed with headlines that boast about sign ups once I had this revelation.

Twitter do have billions in ads revenue including this year.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by pornel »

Mizoguchi wrote: post #154
soderfoo wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Twitter is more hostile than it's ever been. >The first time a blog post is written about the Epic Dunk that AOC had on Ted Cruz... How do you reconcile these two statements? I feel the performative "mic drop" moment is a major source of toxicity on Twitter. A breath of fresh air would be a place that promoted thoughtful and empathetic conversations.

Thoughtful and empathetic conversations is something few people want though. People like controversy and to some degree toxicity. So any new microbloging platform that wants to reach the user base of Twitter will have to turn into a version of Twitter at some point.

I suppose it's hard to have vitality+engagement and more tame discussion at the same time.

I like Mastodon, because it doesn't chase growth at all costs, but chooses to foster well-behaved communities (it's more like connected phpBB forums than Twitter). I can talk to a random stranger and actually share ideas, instead of getting caught in a loop of outrage and dunking.

Re: Threads has 10M sign ups in seven hours

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Post by imran0 »

planb wrote: post #24
stefan_ wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny, you got 6 months to make the shittiest possible Twitter clone because at this point anything will go, but then you end up captured by Instagram product management that want you to irrevocably hook it up to their systems (why?) and weirdos that still think "app-first". Jesus, can nobody execute anymore? Also no EU apparently because making a product that doesn't record every interaction and pushes it down…

You make it sound like they (meta) are dumb for making these decisions. Probably, their goals shifted from "get as many users as possible" to "earn as much money as possible". I guess they know very well what they are doing.

I've got 1 word for you.

Metaverse.

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