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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by maharajatever »

jug wrote: post #125
ceejayoz wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“On Mastodon” is like saying “in restaurants”. There’s a wide variety of instances to various tastes.

Yes, but the point being made is that you then choose a more welcoming instance and then it's defederated instead because it allowed your post, so then your Mastodon experience sucks anyway and you only gave yourself an illusion of freedom. I'm not sure how common this issue is but I _can_ say that I've been through a defederation bullshit myself because the large instance did something as egregious as welcoming peop…

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Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by antiframe »

Brybry wrote: post #138
teawrecks wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also most of the rest of the world doesn't use Twitter (I'm seeing about 240M total users?). The ones that do use Twitter do so because of a significant amount of money going into marketing Twitter's platform. Conversely, relatively nothing goes into pushing people to use mastodon. It can only take off if it really does prove, not just useful, but more useful than a centralized version that's got money behind it.

What microblogging service does most of the rest of the world use? Weibo? Telegram channels?

I imagine 'none'. With Twitter, the most recognized micro logging site in the world only has 240M of the worlds population, I conclude micro logging isn't popular worldwide.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by Macha »

0xblinq wrote: post #111
Macha wrote: post #94

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The point of it is that it isn't a company but a standard, so if one instance owner goes crazy and patches ads in you can move to another (or your own) and keep your network

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I’m still new to it. Wouldn’t you have the same problem as with an email address? I mean, your handle or whatever it is called would still point to that instance/owner right? Or is there some kind of “DNS” or registry so you can move your handle to other instances?

Yes, you can use your own domain as a handle even if you're relying on someone else's server for hosting. It's sadly a little more complicated than DNS though:

https://blog.maartenballiauw.be/post/2022/11/05/mastodon-own...

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by bornfreddy »

sgammon wrote: post #81

wow. how would one even fix this without deliberate downtime? you'd have to deploy and hope that the frontend will make it through CDNs to reduce pressure, right?

You first remove rate limits, then implement and release exponential backoff on frontend, then apply rate limits again (on a small segment of users first, then more). No biggie, you just need to be very careful. And boss needs to chill for that time, which is unlikely to happen.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by hinkley »

sourcecodeplz wrote: post #133
hinkley wrote: post #120

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When someone says, "certain topics will get you banned" that doesn't make me judge the platform, that makes me judge the person. People are going to assume it's something you don't want to name, if you won't name it.

Why would you judge the person because some kid somewhere is a trigger happy moderator? What happened to thinking for yourself?

> What happened to thinking for yourself?

What do you think I'm doing, right now?

Someone is invoking censorship as a reason not to adopt a new platform. No specifics, just rabble rousing. That's manipulation. Pushing back is thinking for yourself.

Or, they are being imprecise and undermining their position, in which case what I said works as advice on further conversations. Either way is thinking.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by antiframe »

screye wrote: post #140
hinkley wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When someone says, "certain topics will get you banned" that doesn't make me judge the platform, that makes me judge the person. People are going to assume it's something you don't want to name, if you won't name it.

Come on, in a lot coastal discourse it is practically taboo to mention vanilla opinions that are held by 70+% of the population. Mastodon instances are largely moderated by people from the other 30%. You are free to judge if you want. But don't pretend this is a violation of publicly accepted morals in the 1st world.

I am having trouble imagining what you mean. Can you illustrate your point with an example opinion that is held by 70% of the population but is taboo to discuss?

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by Shared404 »

Brybry wrote: post #138
teawrecks wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also most of the rest of the world doesn't use Twitter (I'm seeing about 240M total users?). The ones that do use Twitter do so because of a significant amount of money going into marketing Twitter's platform. Conversely, relatively nothing goes into pushing people to use mastodon. It can only take off if it really does prove, not just useful, but more useful than a centralized version that's got money behind it.

What microblogging service does most of the rest of the world use? Weibo? Telegram channels?

> What microblogging service does most of the rest of the world use?

Most of the world doesn't.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by guelo »

screye wrote: post #140
hinkley wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When someone says, "certain topics will get you banned" that doesn't make me judge the platform, that makes me judge the person. People are going to assume it's something you don't want to name, if you won't name it.

Come on, in a lot coastal discourse it is practically taboo to mention vanilla opinions that are held by 70+% of the population. Mastodon instances are largely moderated by people from the other 30%. You are free to judge if you want. But don't pretend this is a violation of publicly accepted morals in the 1st world.

"coastal" is ridiculous. American vs American hate is out of control.

Re: Twitter Is DDOSing Itself

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Post by [deleted] »

redox99 wrote: post #109
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #28

Meanwhile, I can see this very Mastadon post with no login just fine. And the interface is not trying to assault me. It loads quick. ...Seems like a better product than Twitter for a public feed.

On Mastodon simply discussing certain topics will get you banned, and instances that don't ban those users get defederated. I prefer Twitter in the sense that it's more laissez faire in terms of what kinds of speech get you banned.

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