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Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Sync is also dead. They just sent out a push notification: "Sync for reddit had shutdown. Thank you for using Sync. It's been one hell of a ride."

apparently there is going to be a Sync for Lemmy. Hopefully we also get Apollo for Lemmy and get rid of reddit for good.

Apollo for Federated... ::drool::

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

Fediverse isn't it man. Whoever owns the server is in complete control of all the content and can delete it at any moment then you have to find a new server and start over. It only solves part of the the problem, not even accounting for how confusing it is to normal users.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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I’ve only really used Apollo on Reddit. The official app never stuck for me and I don’t have it installed. It’s one of the few apps I only really use on my phone, so I don’t have it bookmarked or anything. At this point, I’m burned and so I’ll take my ball and go home.

I bought the screensavers though. Thanks for all the good times Apollo.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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I remember signing up for Reddit as a college freshman. I was a digg user and joined Reddit in the aftermath of that fiasco. I sometimes laugh looking over my post history for the past decade plus. If you read the posts linearly, you can trace my evolution from a kid arguing passionately over politics and culture (things he didn't really know much about), to a more mature young adult who rarely waded into discussions…

If we’re having a wake… I remember when I accidentally became a moderator of /r/science because they asked for variety of domain expertise and I’m a geographer and c’mon… nobody’s a geographer. It was a fun experience. Then became an educational one. Then frustrating. Then thankless. Then I stopped. I’m happy for the lessons. I’m sad it died years ago.

I had totally forgotten that you had a flair showing your expertise. I did some computer vision stuff for a while. You wouldn’t recognize r/science of the early days though. Reddit is a completely different site.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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> the death of Apollo also goes the metaphorical death of all the best parts (IMO) of the internet: open-source, creativity, entrepreneurial spirit.

It died years ago for me. I don't want go get too nostalgic, but it depresses how amazing the early internet was compared to what it is today. The early years of web 2.0 (2002 - 2007ish) were the golden age imo.

Then Facebook and the smart phone came along... From that point on the internet was no longer a place for geeks on their desktop computers to chat on forums and build cool stuff for other geeks. It became mainstream. Boomers got online. Children got online. Then the corporations monetised everything.

Everything happening to Reddit today is a result of boomers, children and corporations going online. Edgey content gets banned or boomers complain. Everything gets age-gated or censored because, "think of the kids". And all you're left with is sterile advertiser friendly content served next to half a dozen ads.

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

Fediverse isn't it man. Whoever owns the server is in complete control of all the content and can delete it at any moment then you have to find a new server and start over. It only solves part of the the problem, not even accounting for how confusing it is to normal users.

Thats the same for any website though?

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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Narwhal (a 3rd-party iOS Reddit app) is still going and it turns out not biting the hand that feeds you works pretty well. Respect to the Apollo guy for having the confidence that he could get Reddit to back down through a well-organized PR campaign. But he could’ve had a decent business if he’d just backed down, given in a little, and not tried to make Spez look like a bigger idiot/liar than he already did. I love a…

>Well-organized PR campaign. Sure, if you call simply posting his experiences on his own subreddit for his own app a PR campaign. He certainly did a better job than Reddit did, blatantly lying about their conversation, timelines, and motivations for killing 3rd party apps. Reddit is trying to pivot to the TikTok and YouTube comment section population of the internet, while the HN commenter types were simply costing t…

> Sure, if you call simply posting his experiences on his own subreddit for his own app a PR campaign.

Yes, this and the organized blackout and anti-Reddit posts among the biggest subreddits is a coordinated PR campaign.

Remember that the headline narrative they were pushing was “Reddit is killing 3rd-party apps.” It was buried in walls of text that in fact Reddit was making 3rd-party apps pay more than they wanted to pay.

If Reddit was in fact killing 3rd-party apps why does Narwhal still work?

And yes, I understand that you are quite bright and understood exactly what was going on. But the whole point of the campaign was to appeal to people not like you and get them on the side of the developers. Although admittedly getting Redditors to post “fuck /u/spez” is only marginally harder than shooting fish in a barrel.

I’m not throwing shade. Respect to them for shooting their shot. But see it for what it was: an attempt to control a narrative, get the public on their side, and achieve a desired outcome. If that’s not PR, what is?

Re: Apollo is dead. Long live Apollo

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post #128

If you care about this stuff, please at least give the fediverse a try. Yes it's inadequate right now in all kinds of ways. But the main reason is that not enough people are there. It needs critical mass. Pick whatever you want - kbin, lemmy, mastodon. Go there, find your community (it will probably look very sad compared to Reddit). And contribute something positive - comment, post, whatever. If everybody just did t…

Fediverse isn't it man. Whoever owns the server is in complete control of all the content and can delete it at any moment then you have to find a new server and start over. It only solves part of the the problem, not even accounting for how confusing it is to normal users.

There are plenty of good critiques of the Fediverse, but the one you just made it true of every single website.
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