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Re: Ask HN: Is GitHub down?

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No it doesn't. The amount of false alarm alerts you can get with internet based monitoring is more than 0. You could have a BGP route break things for one ISP your monitoring happens to use. You could have a failover event happening where it takes 30 seconds for everything to converge. I have multiple monitors on my app at 1 minute intervals from different vendors and ALWAYS a user will email us within 5 seconds of a…

Most paid status monitoring services cover BGP route problems and ISP issues by only flagging an event if it's detected from X geographically diverse endpoints. For the 30 seconds where you wait for failover to complete: that is a 30 second outage. It's not necessarily profitable to admit to it, but showing it as a 30 second outage would be accurate

TCP default is more than 30 seconds. The internet itself has about a 99.9% uptime. If one company showed every 30 second blip on their outage page all their competitors would have that screenshot on the first page of their pitch deck even if they also had the same issue. 2-5 minutes is reasonable for a public service to announce an outage.

Re: Ask HN: Is GitHub down?

#154
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it doesn't. The amount of false alarm alerts you can get with internet based monitoring is more than 0. You could have a BGP route break things for one ISP your monitoring happens to use. You could have a failover event happening where it takes 30 seconds for everything to converge. I have multiple monitors on my app at 1 minute intervals from different vendors and ALWAYS a user will email us within 5 seconds of a…

Most paid status monitoring services cover BGP route problems and ISP issues by only flagging an event if it's detected from X geographically diverse endpoints. For the 30 seconds where you wait for failover to complete: that is a 30 second outage. It's not necessarily profitable to admit to it, but showing it as a 30 second outage would be accurate

Forgot about that centurylink BGP infinite loop route bug they had where it took down their whole system nationwide. A lot of monitoring services showed red even though it was one ISP that was done.

Re: Ask HN: Is GitHub down?

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I think the same thing every time my credentials to our issue tracker expires and I have to log in again. I am the lead dev on two projects.

Is there a name for firing trauma? I'm like this ever since I was scapegoated.

I got logged out of our slack today, which I'm the primary owner of, and I was also wondering this.

I've also never been fired, so, it isn't always linked to trauma from past firings.

Re: Ask HN: Is GitHub down?

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Everytime github goes down, and my push/pull is rejected, I immediately assume they’ve discovered I’m incompetent and fired me. And I’m the head of engineering at my company.

Ooof, I felt that. My project management system logs me out a few times a year and each time it happens my heart rate elevates.

Re: Ask HN: Is GitHub down?

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Very good points. Meanwhile I have clients asking me why they can't have a status page to which I reply: you can, but ultimately to be completely fail proof it will be a human updating it slowly. To which they reply: but GitHub or X does it... Very infuriating, that.

There's some nice tooling these days for this. E.g. https://firehydrant.com/ and https://incident.io both make this a faster, more embedded process.

Hey, incident.io CEO here! Thanks for mentioning us.
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