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A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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I’d never seen “an overview of systematic reviews” before — I would have thought this was already common sense, but it should be now more than ever. I was a little confused about the “less is better” part of the article. I think it just meant diminishing returns with more exercise, but it says that less is actually better.

> I was a little confused about the “less is better” part of the article. I ~workout~ train 20+ hours per week. This is definitely bad for my mental health, but the goals won't achieve themselves. Turns out qualifying for Boston is no joke.

So why do it?

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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I've had life-long depression exercise has made my anxiety and depression worse. I've done all kinds from weight training to ramping up to a full marathon I don't believe this metareview one bit

I’m in the same camp as you. I still exercise because I can’t see myself not exercising; plus I know it’s benefiting me physically.

For some reason I really dislike casual talk amongst people about this subject. When people causally give simple solutions to their depression I wonder if they were actually “clinically depressed.” Or they say X helped but forgot to mention they were also on drug Y and seeing a therapist Z many times a week. My favorite internet depression cure is travel.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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The thing that made me transition from a mindset of “I have a body” to “I am a body”, was actually Zen meditation. This was surprising to me. Before I tried it, I thought of meditation as a purely mental thing, I didn’t expect that the first really noticeable effect of regular meditation would be a changed relationship to my body, Much later I discovered contemporary dance, quit my phd in machine learning and became…

I appreciate your story and at the same time I don't agree with fully identifying with just the body. In fact in my yogic training, we learned to apply the 'i have' vs 'i am' as much as possible - directly opposite of what you are saying. As someone growing religiously right now, I like the framework of the body being a vehicle for the soul (or at least, the mind) resonates a lot more.

One way that I sometimes think about this is that we are all of these things, and that being one thing need not preclude being another as well.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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For anyone looking to start exercising, try a rowing machine. It’s practically a shortcut to getting in shape and building muscle (when done with proper form and pushing yourself).

Even 5 minutes of HARD rowing a day and you’ll see amazing results.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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Certainly can't speak for everyone, but the most effective form of exercise that I have found is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Couple of reasons. First: The deeper you get into it the more you learn its primarily an intellectual pursuit - its just hidden in a very physical endeavor. When I'm doing Jiu Jitsu, I have to actively think, engage my problem solving skills, I can't go on auto pilot as I do in other things - rowing m…

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Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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When I was a young distance runner I was in such good shape that, when not tired from a workout, moving around the world was essentially effortless. Its kind of like playing a first person shooter and very easy to feel like your body is just some abstract tool. In contrast having a minor injury causing you to limp or something is very grounding, forcing you to focus on walking carefully and not have to hurry for anyo…

wasn't that a side effect of endorphins/runner's high ?

I believe it is a side effect of being in good shape.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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When I was a young distance runner I was in such good shape that, when not tired from a workout, moving around the world was essentially effortless. Its kind of like playing a first person shooter and very easy to feel like your body is just some abstract tool. In contrast having a minor injury causing you to limp or something is very grounding, forcing you to focus on walking carefully and not have to hurry for anyo…

wasn't that a side effect of endorphins/runner's high ?

They said when _not_ tired from a workout.

Re: A new study looks at how exercise can help alleviate anxiety and depression

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This is what mountain biking does for me. It's not hard, and it's pretty safe, but maintaining decent speed while navigating trails... it's a flow state. Heck, a week ago I did a 100 mile MTB race, with the goal of finishing and being happy. While bits and pieces are there, some chatting with folks and things I saw along the trail, but I honestly do not remember most of the ~9 hours I was riding. It was just a thing…

MTB has pretty much all the good stuff in one. You're outside, in nature, breathing fresh air, it's cardio and mindfulness on the climbs and flow and focus on the descent, add adrenaline to taste. The community is pretty rad too, it has the atmosphere of surfing and hiking combined.

Please tell me more. You might influence someone to try a new hobby
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