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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by alecco »

mjamesaustin wrote: post #23
pixelpoet wrote: post #5

I really hope a decent Reddit replacement shows up soon; my impression is that HN is mostly webdevs, so surely some of y'all are on it?

I was confused at first by the federated nature of Lemmy, but making an account was easy and I'm thoroughly enjoying it now. The important thing to note – even though you join a particular Lemmy "instance", it doesn't particularly matter which one, because you can subscribe to communities (subreddits) from any instance. The instance I joined – vlemmy.net An aggregator of communities to join – https://lemmyverse.net/c…

Seems lemmy community has some issues.

https://www.jayeless.net/2023/06/on-reddit-and-alternatives....

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by mecsred »

ramesh31 wrote: post #118
LordDragonfang wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>There is massive friction to being able to post anywhere. Reddit would be objectively better with a less heavy handed approach to moderation Whenever I see this sentiment I'm honestly stumped as to how anyone's experience can be so different from mine. What exactly is it that you're trying to post that's so difficult? because from what I see in nearly every sub, they'd be improved by more moderation, since nearly al…

>What exactly is it that you're trying to post that's so difficult? because from what I see in nearly every sub, they'd be improved by more moderation, since nearly all of them get stuffed with off-topic and low-effort content, often actively breaking the community rules in the sidebar. That's the problem, it can be anything . No, I'm not going to sit down and read every single bullet point of your specific subreddit…

"I absolutely refuse to even read the guidelines for participating in this community. 30 seconds of mental effort is too much for me to invest." "Gosh why does this community seem so upset with me, I did my best to be insightful and helpful"

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by ramesh31 »

dale_glass wrote: post #147
ramesh31 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What exactly is it that you're trying to post that's so difficult? because from what I see in nearly every sub, they'd be improved by more moderation, since nearly all of them get stuffed with off-topic and low-effort content, often actively breaking the community rules in the sidebar. That's the problem, it can be anything . No, I'm not going to sit down and read every single bullet point of your specific subreddit…

> No, I'm not going to "revise my post" to step in line with what you're expecting. I'm just never going to bother joining this community now. Good! I only visit well curated subreddits. I don't want drive-by visitors, floods of memes, or similar content. My bread and butter are subreddits like r/DebateReligion and r/AskHistorians. If the mods are not to my liking, there usually is an alternate sub on the same subjec…

>So thank you for staying away.

And this is exactly why Reddit has gone to hell. Mods with that attitude. "I was here first, so therefore I get to unilaterally set the Overton window for all discussion herein. If you don't like it, you're banned."

HN seems to be the last place on the internet where competing thoughts can exist. It's amazing to me that if moderation is so hard, why dang can do such a good job single-handedly with a user-base bigger than most subs.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by Havoc »

bnralt wrote: post #72
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

8 years ago a bunch of Reddits went dark to protest the firing of Victoria Taylor. The AMA sub claimed that they wouldn't be able to continue without Victoria's help. Eventually the sub opened back up and things continued as they had before; the average user noticed no difference. If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd pro…

It's subjective I guess, but the AMA content quality on reddit did seem to fall off a cliff after she left. Not reddit destroying but definitely left a hole

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by bhouston »

bnralt wrote: post #72
Havoc wrote: post #16

They’re gonna be left with bottom of the barrel mods. It’s a thankless task to begin with - a marginal proposition at best. Add some threats as a thank you for the unpaid work and it becomes downright abusive Who the hell is going to want to mod in that context?

8 years ago a bunch of Reddits went dark to protest the firing of Victoria Taylor. The AMA sub claimed that they wouldn't be able to continue without Victoria's help. Eventually the sub opened back up and things continued as they had before; the average user noticed no difference. If you told people today that Reddit AMA's hadn't been working for the past 8 years because the company fired an employee then, they'd pro…

AMAs are basically dead on reddit these days. Scroll through this listing:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/top/?t=all

I had to scroll for pages and pages to find one that was recent. The heyday appears to have been 5 to 9 years ago.

It looks like this sub got established as the place to go and then it slowly lost momentum over time.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by visarga »

mulletbum wrote: post #32
p4bl0 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Classic attempt to break a strike. Would mods be employee, this would be illegal (at least in France). This shows how Reddit the company think how the people who work for them for free on Reddit the platform and make its value.

Mods don't work for Reddit. They volunteer for Reddit moderation. Much like you can volunteer to be the leader of the DND club at a local hobby shop. They are not an employee. People who don't like what Reddit is doing should stop showing up. Mods who don't like it should stop moderating. It's as simple as that, if enough people agree, Reddit will be no more. I will bet Reddit will be just fine.

> Much like you can volunteer to be the leader of the DND club at a local hobby shop.

A DND club with an IPO?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by freeAgent »

Mods should engage in malicious compliance. Historically, Reddit has done absolutely nothing to help communities suffering from malicious moderation, including banning users and censoring posts without good reason. Mods can just open up their subs, but start moderating in such a way that they drive away users. Reddit would look very hypocritical removing mods who do this now when they have been fine with that sort of behavior historically.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by [deleted] »

anigbrowl wrote: post #124
civilitty wrote: post #73

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Finally, I can fulfill my destiny of taking over r/television and banning anyone who says anything positive about a show with a laugh track. It should never have been allowed to begin with.

More seriously, the other day someone spent significant time and effort trying to convince me that the new version of The Wonder Years featuring a black family was anti-white propaganda by The Jews. If he's a reddit user I'm sure he'd love to mod a sub with such a large community.

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