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Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by wahnfrieden »

ssl232 wrote: post #109
rurp wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although I do foresee Reddit “super mods” forcibly removing the blackout through their backend, removing mod status from the “rebels” and inserting their own friendly mods until they can find replacements. I agree this is likely, which will extend the negative reactions further and alienate even more users. Unless Reddit execs do a 180 in the very near future I think the platform will be forever crippled. Large net…

Where will reddit get enough mods to police the hundreds (thousands?) of subreddits each with tens of thousands of members that are rebelling against the API changes? Blocking/firing the existing mods would make the site descend into chaos.

Well they’ve already started doing it

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by activiation »

bastijn wrote: post #78
activiation wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I unsubscrided from a few subs that weren't doing the blackout

I'm reading new ones that aren't doing the blackout. Need for content didn't change.

I browse new posts on HN instead

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by moffkalast »

tux3 wrote: post #31
ThomW wrote: post #18

... until they just take over the moderation of their largest communities and this whole thing ends. I mean what's so magical about the moderation of something like r/videos other than the mods being free labor for Reddit?

If they do, whatever thrown together group of reddit appointed substitutes get the task of trying to moderate all of reddit at once is likely going to be drowning very badly And you can expect people engaged with the protest to take full advantage of this if it happens, making the problem that much worse If you simply reopen without any of the current mods, the site will be overrun

Mods of anarchychess basically let people have free reign during the first day, no moderation. It went exactly as one would expect.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by a2tech »

ssl232 wrote: post #109
rurp wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although I do foresee Reddit “super mods” forcibly removing the blackout through their backend, removing mod status from the “rebels” and inserting their own friendly mods until they can find replacements. I agree this is likely, which will extend the negative reactions further and alienate even more users. Unless Reddit execs do a 180 in the very near future I think the platform will be forever crippled. Large net…

Where will reddit get enough mods to police the hundreds (thousands?) of subreddits each with tens of thousands of members that are rebelling against the API changes? Blocking/firing the existing mods would make the site descend into chaos.

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Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by itairal »

themagician wrote: post #32

Great opportunity for people to create derivative subreddits without oppressive mods.

Hopefully the whole thing implodes and we go back to specific message boards.

HN would hardly be better if random people mostly interested in cooking or martial arts were putting in their two cents here.

I really can't think of any subject that is better on Reddit than it was on an old message forum that was killed off by these giant platforms.

Compare any subreddit about psytrance or trance music to the corpse of forum.isratrance.com.

It isn't even close. The forum owner is also self interested to not be labeled oppressive. I can't think of any old forum I was ever on that had problems of oppressive moderation.

That isratrance forum of course though doesn't scale to a few hundred million people and early investors getting rich.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by meepmorp »

slicktux wrote: post #97

I’m all for this but what’s to keep Reddit from manning the subreddits themselves??

The same thing that was stopping them before, that's a lot of work. Plus, it was free before, so they'd need to spend some money doing it themselves.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by SirMaster »

xyst wrote: post #50

Good. This works out for everybody except the brain dead C-level executives that tried to bully indie app developers. - regular people get a break from their echo chambers - VOLUNTEER mods get a break - journalists get their news article The only loser here is the corporation side. Significant loss of value from decreased user activity. Subsequent loss of revenue. Inability to extract as much value from the users dat…

I don't think that's the only losers.

As a mod I am getting messages from regular users who are desperate to see posts that have likely troubleshooting answers to problems they are having at work.

Reddit is kind of a critical technical resource for some people and this is really hurting them at least right now.

Re: Reddit subs with millions of followers plan to extend the blackout indefinitely

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Post by wvenable »

bastijn wrote: post #124
wvenable wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been actively avoiding Reddit during this protest and I just signed up to a Lemmy instance. The UI isn't great but the communities are already pretty hopping. I need to subscribe to a few more things but it seems to handle the fix for now. I'm never using Reddit's awful app -- it's just not how I like to use Reddit. I'm an old.reddit.com kind of person.

The point is for any that is like you my guess is there are 2 more like me. Or 20, or 200. Never checked how much people use 3rd party apps vs. total users. Honest question, what is so bad about the Reddit app that you would give up browsing the content you like? I experience little ads, and if I would be annoyed by it I would probably find ways to get rid of it (pi-hole style). I'm OK with how the app displays comme…

I've been using 3rd party apps for over 15 years -- I used Alien Blue on iOS when I had an iPhone and I bought Relay for Reddit on Android over 10 years ago. I use old.reddit.com and always have (back when it was just reddit.com).

How do I find and read that content that I like? It's a very different (and, for me, worse) experience in their official reddit app and on the non-old Reddit.com.

If I'm going to adjust to a different and worse way of browsing content, I might as well just go to a different site entirely. It's similar to how Microsoft keeps adding user-hostile features and degrading the UI on Windows every year. Most users will stay (I do) but a few more will move to Linux or Mac OS. I fully understand where you are coming from -- for you nothing has been lost. For me, it's a significant change for the worse.

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