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Apple’s Vision Pro AR headset is finally here

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_Gargoyles represent the embarrassing side of the Central Intelligence Corporation. Instead of using laptops, they wear their computers on their bodies, broken up into separate modules that hang on the waist, on the back, on the headset. They serve as human surveillance devices, recording everything that happens around them. Nothing looks stupider; these getups are the modern-day equivalent of the slide-rule scabbard or the calculator pouch on the belt, marking the user as belonging to a class that is at once above and far below human society. They are a boon to Hiro because they embody the worst stereotype of the CIC stringer. They draw all the attention. The payoff for this self-imposed ostracism is that you can be in the Metaverse all the time, and gather intelligence all the time_

from Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro AR headset is finally here

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This is really a product looking for a solution. I am very skeptical that the people who buy this will be using it a year after they get it. Wearing the headset while your kids are playing seems like something out of a dystopian scifi movie. And using it to watch movies might work while lying in bed but sitting on the couch seems like the next 3D tvs.

I would buy one if it scanned the environment and augmented it with realtime information. Like "this person is trying to scam you". "This product is cheaper online, order it it?" "I listened to your meeting, would you mind i propose a solution?". "Your current pattern of behaviour indicates x, might i propose you do x to prevent any further complications".

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro AR headset is finally here

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This is clearly an early product launch which isn't ready for the mainstream yet. And I'm assuming it's going to be super expensive. But I'm pretty impressed. Unlike pretty much any other VR headset I've seen, I can actually imagine myself using this and deriving value from it.

This is the weird thing, they nowhere said this. Everyone expected they announce some limited for-development scheme like Google with Lens back then, but this is a full product launch.

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro AR headset is finally here

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+1. Later on in the presentation they show a father taking pictures of his kids in 3d. Playing with your kids while wearing AR goggles is just beyond dystopian.

I mean to be fair, in that video he was recording a video using the headset. In that context, I don't think it's _that_ different from a parent pressing their eye into a camcorder or holding up a smart phone.

It does have similar vibes, but personally I wouldn't have the same negative reaction if the same functionality was added to the iphone. There's just something inauthentic with the digitally projected eyes.

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The "EyeSight" feature has weird implications for how Apple thinks this thing should be used. I'm not really sure I love the idea of making it "easier" for someone to leave the goggles on while interacting with me.

+1. Later on in the presentation they show a father taking pictures of his kids in 3d. Playing with your kids while wearing AR goggles is just beyond dystopian.

I agree with all the mentions of dystopia, and have often considered the "Metaverse" to very much embody such. Then I get to thinking and realize the Gen A'ers will soon enough exclaim "Okay, Millennial" when we shout of these things being dystopian.

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It'll be interesting to see how this affects the market for high-end TVs and audio systems. A very large TV is $2k, an audio system is another couple thousand (including wiring/install). If one of these costs $3k, it becomes a pretty reasonable decision for a single person who's investing in a setup. Of course, if you want to have people over to watch a movie/game, that complicates things. I wonder if there will be a…

> Of course, if you want to have people over to watch a movie/game, that complicates things. Or sit down with your family and watch something. That's still a thing people do, right?

For sure, my comment was in the context of single people, for whom the case is the most compelling IMO. I have a family and imagine that I'll get one in the next 24-36 months, my wife will eventually get one, and our kids will beg us to use them. I do think the hedonic treadmill will be real here, and the experience of watching TV will seem lackluster by comparison.

One demographic that will continue to prefer regular TVs is the Netflix-and-chill crowd, which would be concerned about knocking visors when going in for a kiss...

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I'm suspecting they'll ask users to enroll/login with camera for IPD correction, then make a figurative Live2D model using that picture, interior camera and lip sync. Edit: and yep, your head is modeled and a doppelganger of you will show in calls.

They're talking about this now. Sounds basically like this, except 3d. They also have lips (using downwards facing cameras I guess).

I wonder how this will work without the ability to capture full facial expressions. Can they extrapolate from the features they can see, to fill in the gaps of what they can't see? Or will tone of voice be sufficient to let people know when you're happy or upset?

This could be the next generation of "tone gets lost in text".

Re: Apple’s Vision Pro AR headset is finally here

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The irony of seeing a guy with big goggles on his face gawking at his children and recording them while the narrator says something like "get closer to those memories that matter most." You will not get closer to your family by hiding behind a big funny pair of goggles. The immersive home-theater possibilities on the other hand, now we're talking. Plane rides could potentially become tolerable. That being said, I sti…

Not if they're big and cozy; you can all clink your earmuffs together while being choked out by the battery-pack cable!

I can't wait for the third or forth generation of this product.

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