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Re: Rarbg Is No More

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Post by bsaul »

npteljes wrote: post #119
bsaul wrote: post #48

i was always skeptical on people saying that torrentz are a symptom of bad legal streaming services.. Well, i recently got myself a videoprojector with an android tv included, and since i happen to have an amazon prime account, i installed the app, which is quite good. And yes, it's true, since i've done that, my torrentz usage has dramatically dropped..

I agree. It seems like an flippant opinion, and I'm sure many use it that way, but some services, and frankly, regimes have proven that convenience, comfort and ease of access is very attractive to people. If a service can navigate the obstacles such as copyright, they will be more popular than taking the thing for free with a bit of work.

As a mentionned to someone else in the thread, i've realized that i was actually ok seeing less popular content straight from the remote control, than search for the top content in torrents.

Ease of use and guaranteed video & subtitles quality can compensate to some degree to not having access to all the content in the world.

Re: Rarbg Is No More

#152

Post by maeln »

slazaro wrote: post #125

I keep wondering all the time why torrent search is based on websites (centralized), which can be taken down, etc., while once you have a torrent file or a magnet/hash everything is distributed. Is there a main reason why there isn't (AFAIK, even though I haven't really researched) a distributed search that wouldn't have these problems? Is it a tech problem that literally can't be solved? Or it just hasn't been done?…

There is many search engine that use the DHT to retrieve the metadata and share torrent via the magnet. The main issue here is not the tech, it's the trust and discoverability/curating and also not spreading the seeding capabilities.

When downloading from "reputable torrent tracker XYZ" you can trust the quality of the torrent, that it is virus free, etc ... It is also usually make searching for particular torrent easier (less like searching for a nail in a hay stack) and you avoid spreading the seeding potential to hundreds of similar torrents.

As a extreme example, BakaBT (a private torrent for anime/manga related torrent) has a strict "no duplicate torrent" policy. This means that if you are searching for the OST of a specific show, you will have usually only one result and it's the most up-to-date, highest quality version. Since it is the only option, everyone seed this one. It really diminish the issue of abandoned torrents. To "replace" and existing torrent, you have to provide a strictly better version.

A decentralized torrent search engine could not do that. The real value of torrent tracker are the community.

That is also why decentralized software like eMule/eDonkey lost a lot of popularity to torrent tracker: Lots of duplication, very dodgy download, no curation, virus, ....

Re: Rarbg Is No More

#153

Post by happymellon »

Asooka wrote: post #71
sph wrote: post #24

o7 thank you for your service, keeping the Internet awesome and anti-corporate. Where one piracy site dies, a thousand spawn from its corpse. Maybe the media companies will eventually pull their heads out of their collective arses and quit their cartel, allowing the existence of legal, paid streaming sites a-la-Spotify with access to 99% of the repertoire. Until then, torrent is how we protest while they create more…

A service and a pricing problem. All cases of piracy I have observed stem from one of 3 reasons 1. Too expensive. This encompasses several varieties, like the media in question being literally priced more than the person is willing to pay, or the pricing is acceptable, but the person can buy only one of several choices and wants to evaluate all before giving one their money. 2. The product is not offered for sale. Th…

For 2, it can be the silliest things.

Disney holding back the second half of the final season of Amphibia. Released in the US but not here for unexplained reasons. For 6 months piracy was the only way to get a conclusion.

Our Flag Means Death, even though it had a large section of its cast from Britain it wasn't available to watch for far too long here.

I could go on, but you get the point. Any distribution rules are a creation of their own making in the first place.

Re: Rarbg Is No More

#156

Post by unnouinceput »

m4r1k wrote: post #92

Probably the largest blow to the torrent sharing community since The Pirate Bay got shut down. The impact of content availability will be noticeable for years to come

1 - Pirate bay still exists and is very much alive.

2 - Rarbg was a margin note in torrent community. There are others very much alive and better.

Re: Rarbg Is No More

#157

Post by jokowueu »

sph wrote: post #24

o7 thank you for your service, keeping the Internet awesome and anti-corporate. Where one piracy site dies, a thousand spawn from its corpse. Maybe the media companies will eventually pull their heads out of their collective arses and quit their cartel, allowing the existence of legal, paid streaming sites a-la-Spotify with access to 99% of the repertoire. Until then, torrent is how we protest while they create more…

Most people have moved to Plex shares these days

Re: Rarbg Is No More

#158

Post by superph »

npteljes wrote: post #119
bsaul wrote: post #48

i was always skeptical on people saying that torrentz are a symptom of bad legal streaming services.. Well, i recently got myself a videoprojector with an android tv included, and since i happen to have an amazon prime account, i installed the app, which is quite good. And yes, it's true, since i've done that, my torrentz usage has dramatically dropped..

I agree. It seems like an flippant opinion, and I'm sure many use it that way, but some services, and frankly, regimes have proven that convenience, comfort and ease of access is very attractive to people. If a service can navigate the obstacles such as copyright, they will be more popular than taking the thing for free with a bit of work.

im an IT and i developed a typical download -> playback workflow that works over my home network and its pretty much convenient too :) ^_^

Re: Rarbg Is No More

#159

Post by bscphil »

Asooka wrote: post #71
sph wrote: post #24

o7 thank you for your service, keeping the Internet awesome and anti-corporate. Where one piracy site dies, a thousand spawn from its corpse. Maybe the media companies will eventually pull their heads out of their collective arses and quit their cartel, allowing the existence of legal, paid streaming sites a-la-Spotify with access to 99% of the repertoire. Until then, torrent is how we protest while they create more…

A service and a pricing problem. All cases of piracy I have observed stem from one of 3 reasons 1. Too expensive. This encompasses several varieties, like the media in question being literally priced more than the person is willing to pay, or the pricing is acceptable, but the person can buy only one of several choices and wants to evaluate all before giving one their money. 2. The product is not offered for sale. Th…

> For political reasons, to avoid supporting DRM.

This is very much a practical reason as well, though this overlaps with "not available in a usable form". DRM is the reason I can't watch movies at the highest bitrates and resolutions on my device from Netflix or Amazon. It's the reason I can't trust that things I purchase will be available to me indefinitely. It's the reason I can't build a collection of media (e.g. with Kodi) that is playable on my TV with one click with a single unifying interface.

> The product is not offered for sale.

This extends to some other cases as well. For instance, where the only available version is a crappy remaster (Terminator 2), and the original is much superior. Or if you want to watch the film with a director's commentary.

There's also, very broadly, a 4th reason - convenience. This encompasses both ease of use (if I know what movie I want to watch, I don't have to search to see where it's streaming), and discoverability (a good torrent site will easily let you see all the movies by a director or actor, and provide recommendations). Or if you're looking for a particular special feature, it's much more convenient to be able to download it than to go looking for a physical media copy and wait for it to be shipped to your door.

Re: Rarbg Is No More

#160

Post by pantulis »

From the released note:

> Some are also fighting the war in Europe - ON BOTH SIDES

What an absurd tragedy this is. I think it bears mention between all this conversation about sharing torrents.

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