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Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by mh- »

lsaferite wrote: post #120
sfitz wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most MIDI keyboards aren't really made for piano performance or even really for piano practice. If you want a MIDI controller for this reason, I'd recommend going to a music store near you (if applicable) and playing a few and feeling the keys and go with the one that feels nicest for your budget.

I bought my wife a Yamaha Arius YDP-184 and she loves it. It's not 100% like the baby grand she does lessons on, but it's close enough for most purposes. It has a MIDI interface, but it's not really easily portable.

I'm just a hobbyist, but I've been playing on and off since I was a kid. I have this exact model.

I definitely recommend it, but I'd suggest trying it out in-person if possible. The key weights seem very heavy to me.. but it's entirely possible that this is how higher-end pianos feel and I lack the experience/familiarity.

Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by anamexis »

rcarr wrote: post #13

Very steep prices. Can buy a decent MacBook Air for the cost of the standalone version. Would have been nice to see them keep the old model around with a reduced price for people less well off.

I believe a lot of the Push 2 stock will be given away to education. https://www.ableton.com/en/classroom/push/

Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by mh- »

illwrks wrote: post #135
lsaferite wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought my wife a Yamaha Arius YDP-184 and she loves it. It's not 100% like the baby grand she does lessons on, but it's close enough for most purposes. It has a MIDI interface, but it's not really easily portable.

Seconded. My daughter plays piano, and we have one of these. The YDP line of pianos from Yamaha are very good value, obviously not the same as a grand piano but very very good for a digital piano, and has midi out.

It has midi out and presents itself as a USB audio interface. So if you go into the menu on the YDP itself and turn off the local sound, you can connect it to your laptop via USB and play virtual instruments on it, with the audio going right back out to the YDP's speakers.

I thought that was super cool when I realized that.

Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by edude03 »

drcongo wrote: post #48
6r17 wrote: post #46

I'm a hobbyist music "producer" ; an Ableton user for short, and also a programmer. I cannot express how happy i'm to finally be able to let go of OSX & Windows forever. This is what i'm realizing writing these lines. I'm so happy right now.

Get an iPad. You can do all this and a ton more.

Though I own an iPad and am waiting excited for logic - I will say that producers would prefer to have some kind of hardware to go with their software, so the push 3 isn’t really a competitor to the iPad it’s an accessory

Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by mtalantikite »

Weird, I just this morning was looking at my Push 2 and thought "I wonder when they'll make a standalone Push 3".

The price is a lot higher than I was expecting. I'd definitely love to not be tied to the computer, but in reality I'm in most instances going to be next to a laptop. Hard to say if it's worth it.

Edit: I do love that if you buy the cheaper model, you can still upgrade it to add a hard drive and processor later. That's a great feature.

Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by [deleted] »

roblh wrote: post #137
vemv wrote: post #21

I own a Push 1 and 2, although at hobbyist level. The standalone Push 3 seems a great step forward. macOS has increasingly become user-hostile when it comes to audio (and other pro) users. For instance I have an expensive sound card that became useless with after a minor OS upgrade. I never got to troubleshoot it or find an official solution. That was incredibly discouraging - enough to move on to other hobbies. And…

Really? Which soundcard? I’ve always understood the core audio stuff to be very hassle free. That sounds like a huge problem and I’m really surprised the manufacturer didn’t fix that immediately unless it’s very legacy hardware.

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Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by munificent »

edude03 wrote: post #147
rvense wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TBH this looks like the MPC Live (except done with by people with a bit of taste.) Sketch out things when you're out and about, some simple recordings etc., then bring it back to the studio and just plug it in and have everything there. It's a good plan, and it looks like a great execution, too.

The Mpc live is a full DAW in a box (with speakers too!) though. At first glance this seems more like a portable drum loop machine.

This is literally Ableton Live, an actual DAW, in a box.

Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by pier25 »

I owned a Push 2 and sold it after a year. Never got into it because the pads weren't very good. Soft touches sometimes triggered notes at max velocity which drove me nuts.

The Push 3 has more sophisticated pads with MPE and I'm very skeptical Ableton could pull that off with good QA.

The other thing that I find ridiculous is they sell you a barebones computer for $1,000 with an i3, 8GB of RAM, and 256GB SSD. A computer which you cannot use for anything else and you're dependent on Ableton to fix/replace.

For that kind of money you could buy an M2 iPad Pro with more performance and a lot more battery time than 2.5 hours. An iPad can be bought and repaired on any country. If you're touring you can travel with a backup iPad or even buy one pretty much in any big city on Earth.

Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by smoldesu »

pier25 wrote: post #158

I owned a Push 2 and sold it after a year. Never got into it because the pads weren't very good. Soft touches sometimes triggered notes at max velocity which drove me nuts. The Push 3 has more sophisticated pads with MPE and I'm very skeptical Ableton could pull that off with good QA. The other thing that I find ridiculous is they sell you a barebones computer for $1,000 with an i3, 8GB of RAM, and 256GB SSD. A compu…

Can an iPad run Live?

Re: Ableton Push 3

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Post by smoldesu »

basisword wrote: post #65
vemv wrote: post #21

I own a Push 1 and 2, although at hobbyist level. The standalone Push 3 seems a great step forward. macOS has increasingly become user-hostile when it comes to audio (and other pro) users. For instance I have an expensive sound card that became useless with after a minor OS upgrade. I never got to troubleshoot it or find an official solution. That was incredibly discouraging - enough to move on to other hobbies. And…

>> And I'm a programmer - don't want to imagine the pains that musicians have to go through. Anyone doing it professionally will check all of their plugins/hardware has support for the latest macOS version before updating.

Yep. Truly a testament to how bad modern backwards compatibility has gotten.
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