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Isn't wistron literally a taiwanese company?
I don't know, but they're exiting the business anyway. The article also mentions Foxconn and Luxshare, which are Chinese.
iPhone maker Wistron quits, saying Apple didn't let it make a profit
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What do you suggest as an alternative to our imperfect capitalism?
Star Trek
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> a sense of urgency I've never heard this phrase from anyone that wasn't nakedly seeking power and compliance from others.
That is not my experience at all. It's even used by sports announcers. As an example: "The offense needs to move with more sense of urgency given the clock."
High focus and high intensity is not sustainable over duration. Performance degrades over time without recovery.
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Yes, that's certainly a valid reaction, and is likely partially true. It's also true that Apple is very well known for very hard negotiation and squeezing their suppliers until there's only a few percent margin. You'd have to be insanely good at controlling all of your costs to make money all the time under that constraint. If yields change or component/material prices fluctuate the wrong way any predicted profit cou…
It's good to know the full story, but it's reprehensible? I don't want to cast stones but a really easy connection to make is that wistron took the contact knowing they could only "be profitable" by not paying their labor. So I'm supposed to hate Apple for doing what a business is supposed to do (and frankly being excellent at it). And I'm supposed to champion Wistron for what they did? That's reprehensible if we're…
Why would you think that? There's no need to think that at all when considering the actions of Apple.
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I don't know, but they're exiting the business anyway. The article also mentions Foxconn and Luxshare, which are Chinese.
Foxconn is also a Taiwanese company (though its CEO is familiar with PRC)
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I use to think it was narcissism of small differences, Sino-sphere cultures hating on each other but from what I hear in Vietnam, they're jerks to everyone. Even PRC firms in Viet did not seem to have _that_ bad of reputation to work for. > India System Does lobbying power from Tata or Adani influence over said politics? Seems like they have competence and connections to take over failed foreign ventures. Not implyin…
> from what I hear in Vietnam, they're jerks to everyone. It seems like the older generation of Taiwanese who came to age in the 70s and 80s have a bit of a superiority complex over the rest of poor Asia. Tbf, Koreans and Japanese do as well (Korean and Japanese investors in ASEAN are total sleezeballs in my experience), but due to manpower constraints they at least try to develop local institutional capacity, while…
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> this is what apple does This is what globalism does. Take the environmental destruction and shitty working conditions that would never be allowed in your own country to other countries and centralize the profits from doing so into the hands of a few.
Globalism prevent wars by making countries dependant to each others (Montesquieu Doux commerce theory). Globalism permits to all countries around the globe to develop. Nobody is preventing these countries to set laws about environment and working condition (which they actually do). And by the way, I invite you to go to these countries and visit the factories there, and you will realize that western companies are rais…
He was wrong though, it appears, no? I mean one could argue that there would be more wars without globalism (I'd counter argue there would be less weapons) but one cannot say "globalism prevents wars" in general.
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I first heard it from the military, where training seeks to recreate the stressful fast-pace conditions of an actual battle or war. Years later I started hearing it in business too, as if management circles thought it would be useful in increasing production rates. Not accounting for the fact that levels of urgency similar to military training may not be sustainable in peacetime, and result in workforce burnout and o…
None of your statements disagree with the comment that you're replying to. All of those situations are ones in which people are nakedly demanding compliance
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> this is what apple does This is what globalism does. Take the environmental destruction and shitty working conditions that would never be allowed in your own country to other countries and centralize the profits from doing so into the hands of a few.
Globalism prevent wars by making countries dependant to each others (Montesquieu Doux commerce theory). Globalism permits to all countries around the globe to develop. Nobody is preventing these countries to set laws about environment and working condition (which they actually do). And by the way, I invite you to go to these countries and visit the factories there, and you will realize that western companies are rais…
There's absolutely a big push to keep employment laws as well as other laws „flexible“. And keep salaries as low as realistically possible. Otherwise MUH INVESTORS will go somewhere else. To be fair, it's not (just) foreign investors. Local elite is making $$$ providing support to incoming companies. Real estate moguls, construction companies, subcontractors etc.
Ultimately it is a race to the bottom to appease the sacred investor and let local elite enrich themselves.
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> this is what apple does This is what globalism does. Take the environmental destruction and shitty working conditions that would never be allowed in your own country to other countries and centralize the profits from doing so into the hands of a few.
Globalism prevent wars by making countries dependant to each others (Montesquieu Doux commerce theory). Globalism permits to all countries around the globe to develop. Nobody is preventing these countries to set laws about environment and working condition (which they actually do). And by the way, I invite you to go to these countries and visit the factories there, and you will realize that western companies are rais…