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Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#151
No it's not. What's more important is slow reading and give time to your brain to reason about the book; the form in which is written and why that, what are the messages that the writer want to send with it, how I will act if I'm the protagonist and so on.

For non-fiction the best thing I do is underline the parts that I find more helpful.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

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post #104

I can't speak for others, but for me this headline and idea is exactly and perfectly wrong, so I suppose I just want to reach those for whom this generates unnecessary "guilt" or something like that. As a voracious reader, I've personally found that I got the most out of books when I stopped trying to summarize and highlight. I very rarely do either anymore. I realize that what happens is sort of a Darwinian "surviva…

In my opinion it's just another symptom of the trend in tech circles for ever-increasing self-documentation. Thing is, it doesn't matter how hard you try to shove your life up its own ass, you're going to be just as dead as me at the end of it. And I'll have read more cool stuff.

This made me chuckle. Too true. I would only argue that thinking/journalling deeply about fewer ideas is an equally good use of your time as tasting a greater breadth of ideas more shallowly.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#153
To each their own, I love summarizing books. I have a template in Day One to do a personal "book review" for each book I finish (yes, High School me is gagging at this thought).

I even setup a Siri Shortcut to pull out all of my Kindle highlights to stick in there: https://twitter.com/JordanMorgan10/status/130370253693587046...

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It strictly depends on the category of the book: Insightful → process subconsciously; Informative → summarize. -- Update: yes, it is not just a matter of texts. The annoying snipers that infest these boards should summarize as a general practice: this will help them with an exercise in thinking, expression, so that maybe one day they will also be able to formulate and present an argument. And stop abusing the freedom…

If it's informative, you can't really summarize. Summarizing is the act of throwing most of the information away. If it's informative, you have to read and take your conclusions. And if you later decide to use the information for different conclusions, you'll have to read it again. It's little wonder that informative texts don't usually come in the form of books.

> If it's informative, you can't really summarize. Summarizing is the act of throwing most of the information away.

Yes, but in the case under discussion you're not writing summaries for someone else's consumption— the summary is also your own notes. And in that case, even a heavily abbreviated summary can serve to bring to mine many, many details, including details omitted from the summary.

> If it's informative, you have to read and take your conclusions. And if you later decide to use the information for different conclusions, you'll have to read it again.

100%. I think improving recall is still at least somewhat valuable there, though.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#155
post #104

I can't speak for others, but for me this headline and idea is exactly and perfectly wrong, so I suppose I just want to reach those for whom this generates unnecessary "guilt" or something like that. As a voracious reader, I've personally found that I got the most out of books when I stopped trying to summarize and highlight. I very rarely do either anymore. I realize that what happens is sort of a Darwinian "surviva…

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Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#156
post #104

I can't speak for others, but for me this headline and idea is exactly and perfectly wrong, so I suppose I just want to reach those for whom this generates unnecessary "guilt" or something like that. As a voracious reader, I've personally found that I got the most out of books when I stopped trying to summarize and highlight. I very rarely do either anymore. I realize that what happens is sort of a Darwinian "surviva…

In my opinion it's just another symptom of the trend in tech circles for ever-increasing self-documentation. Thing is, it doesn't matter how hard you try to shove your life up its own ass, you're going to be just as dead as me at the end of it. And I'll have read more cool stuff.

lol, you just summarized what I was thinking...

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#157
post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It strictly depends on the category of the book: Insightful → process subconsciously; Informative → summarize. -- Update: yes, it is not just a matter of texts. The annoying snipers that infest these boards should summarize as a general practice: this will help them with an exercise in thinking, expression, so that maybe one day they will also be able to formulate and present an argument. And stop abusing the freedom…

Not gonna lie, it strongly feels like the latter is a job for them newfangled AI thingies :)

The summary isn’t for you to read it later, it’s for you to write.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#158

I’m at 47 books read this year so far and mostly disagree with the author of the article. When you find a book that’s worth summarizing, do it. But I get exposed to many more ideas (and find the ones worth thinking about more) simply by reading more. Also, I just like reading. My goal isn’t to have some kind of personal knowledge base to prove how much I’ve comprehended to myself.

I also do about 50/year. It's entirely for recreation. A lot of the books are non-fiction and educational but I'm not doing work. I'm enjoying myself and there's no outcome I'm hoping for besides that enjoyment in the moment.

Re: Writing summaries is more important than reading more books

#159

ChatGPT will do this. But also, try quizzing yourself about what you’ve read the day before. I bet the retention is slim.

Sure, ChatGPT can do this. Just like you could drive a car over a marathon route. That’s not the point though, the point of summarizing is to force yourself to understand. It’s the journey not the destination that’s important.

Should I also hand-write the summary?
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