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Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Post by xrguy »

zamnos wrote: post #65
drewg123 wrote: post #43

I've been dreaming of a product like this for years. I'm most productive in my office setup with large 42" + 24" monitors. When I travel I feel cramped and unproductive on my laptop. The laptop screen size does not seem to matter within the limits of what I'm comfortable lugging with me (nothing larger than a 15-16" mbp). So I've longed for some kind of VR or projected display from a laptop or mobile device. I signed…

Nreal sells glasses that are available today, on Amazon, and their Nebula virtual desktop app is available for Mac and Windows. The FoV on the Air isn't great, and if you wear corrective lenses you'll need to wear contacts, or get their prescription inserts, but that future is already here. It connects via USB-C to your existing computer, though dongles are available if you only have HDMI. The software isn't quite th…

i have nreal light too, for around $400 its really good. there is a community made api that can access glasses head tracking data, some made their own multi monitor app demos too, hope official one gets better later on too edit; spacetop is using nreal light (6dof)

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Post by xrguy »

pmontra wrote: post #150
Twisell wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An avatar like the Apple memoji, they already heavily communicate around this concept over previous online WWDC (due to COVID) https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=gclaxoae This could make total sense, I always thought they spend to much energy on what was a gimmick at this point. But maybe they were just preparing a live memoji feature until it was flawless. You might notice that unlike Meta, Apple current approach…

I just switch off my camera when I don't need it and turn it on for those few business interactions that are more effective by looking each other faces. That's it. 3D moving avatars feel totally inappropriate to me in a business environment. I would wonder if I am working with kids.

meta codec avatar comes to mind, apple could do the same or better perheps

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Post by Twisell »

pmontra wrote: post #150
Twisell wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An avatar like the Apple memoji, they already heavily communicate around this concept over previous online WWDC (due to COVID) https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=gclaxoae This could make total sense, I always thought they spend to much energy on what was a gimmick at this point. But maybe they were just preparing a live memoji feature until it was flawless. You might notice that unlike Meta, Apple current approach…

I just switch off my camera when I don't need it and turn it on for those few business interactions that are more effective by looking each other faces. That's it. 3D moving avatars feel totally inappropriate to me in a business environment. I would wonder if I am working with kids.

Not sure typical business meetings would be the main target audience anyway. Videoconferencing is here to stay.

It should rather be compared to other VR avatar concepts. Meta full body avatar for instance. The tech is clearly not ready and feel clumsy and add absolutely nothing. Meanwhile a floating head of some sort that can surimpose over the media you are collaborating on could be a better experience.

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Post by shireboy »

zamnos wrote: post #65
drewg123 wrote: post #43

I've been dreaming of a product like this for years. I'm most productive in my office setup with large 42" + 24" monitors. When I travel I feel cramped and unproductive on my laptop. The laptop screen size does not seem to matter within the limits of what I'm comfortable lugging with me (nothing larger than a 15-16" mbp). So I've longed for some kind of VR or projected display from a laptop or mobile device. I signed…

Nreal sells glasses that are available today, on Amazon, and their Nebula virtual desktop app is available for Mac and Windows. The FoV on the Air isn't great, and if you wear corrective lenses you'll need to wear contacts, or get their prescription inserts, but that future is already here. It connects via USB-C to your existing computer, though dongles are available if you only have HDMI. The software isn't quite th…

Does nebula virtual desktop support rdp and browser? I remote into dozens of machines for work and most other things are browser based- email, chat, etc.

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Post by amadeuspagel »

> Priced at $2,000, the Spacetop is purpose-built as a business tool, with an optimized Arm processor, AOSP (open-source Android) operating system, and, of course, the custom headset.

Interesting choice for what seems more like a laptop then a tablet — would have expected that to run ChromeOS or a standard linux distro.

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Post by lagniappe »

hiatus wrote: post #71
lagniappe wrote: post #66

I use the nReal for this currently, it's great. The glasses are comfy, and I can have blockers on the front or see through to other things. You can be full wearable right now for less than you think.

How long are your sessions on average? Is this your daily driver or just for certain occasions (travel, etc)?

About 6hrs per day, most days, its the same motion as using bifocals but in reverse. I keep up documentation that i can see through, and/or whatever is playing to break up the silence.

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Post by anaisbetts »

anonzzzies wrote: post #149

I have been doing this for months now with the nreal air, my phone and a portable keyboard with trackpad (I use keyboard shortcuts for anything anyway). It works really well and I haven't taken my laptop anywhere for 2 months or so. It is not perfect, but it's much better than lugging my laptop everywhere (no matter what it weighs; it's the dimensions). And the battery life is outstanding (it's that of my phone and c…

Same, a Steam Deck with an NReal Air and a slim Bluetooth keyboard/mouse is actually a smaller Linux laptop than a laptop (though admittedly a bit more cumbersome for quick usage vs just flipping open a laptop).

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Post by ianai »

amadeuspagel wrote: post #155

> Priced at $2,000, the Spacetop is purpose-built as a business tool, with an optimized Arm processor, AOSP (open-source Android) operating system, and, of course, the custom headset. Interesting choice for what seems more like a laptop then a tablet — would have expected that to run ChromeOS or a standard linux distro.

Could have been windows and actual hardware. I’m guessing they’re offsetting the price of the headset with the dismal specs.

Re: Spacetop, a radical laptop with no screen

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Post by amadeuspagel »

ianai wrote: post #158
amadeuspagel wrote: post #155

> Priced at $2,000, the Spacetop is purpose-built as a business tool, with an optimized Arm processor, AOSP (open-source Android) operating system, and, of course, the custom headset. Interesting choice for what seems more like a laptop then a tablet — would have expected that to run ChromeOS or a standard linux distro.

Could have been windows and actual hardware. I’m guessing they’re offsetting the price of the headset with the dismal specs.

I guess if want to do something this different you want an open source platform so that you can design a user interface that makes sense for VR.
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