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Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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> If you have a genetic propensity for schizophrenia How would you know until something triggers it? Getting permanently mindfucked from LSD is an awful way to discover this.

I feel like people generally know if they have a family history of these things, or maybe that’s just me?

Maybe, maybe not. There can be a lot of surprises in one's family history. And it's all surprises if you're adopted.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#152

I think it's useful to consider this blog post as an anecdotal experience of someone who had a significant, traumatic experience with LSD for which they were entirely socially unprepared for even when those those experiences seemed to be known among those who take LSD (no one expressed surprise or confusion at their condition in their group). There is plenty of questions to ask here: why didn't this person's friends…

I feel like your questions are blaming the victim here. The temptation is real and not everyone has the greatest friends. LSD is actually dangerous.

Sorry, I don't mean to blame the author of the blog post. If anything I'd like to know why their friends didn't step in for them, nor that they never came across the potential long-term consequences in even a casual research step prior to taking LSD. I'm wondering if the hallucinogen community isn't upfront enough about not taking hallucinogens under certain circumstances and that's something we can glean from this anecdote.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#153

I think it's useful to consider this blog post as an anecdotal experience of someone who had a significant, traumatic experience with LSD for which they were entirely socially unprepared for even when those those experiences seemed to be known among those who take LSD (no one expressed surprise or confusion at their condition in their group). There is plenty of questions to ask here: why didn't this person's friends…

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Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#154

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> That it’s absurd how much suffering the human mind is capable of experiencing. When I was 8 or 9 I had a night terror that involved some sort of life-sized game of Tetris that was moving terribly fast. My brain wholly adopted the belief that if I were to lose, everyone I loved would die horribly. I was trapped in this night terror for what felt like forever. Afterwards I refused to sleep voluntarily for weeks. To t…

I think I know the feeling exactly. I had recurrent dreams like that as a kid, that somehow always involved a large yellow sphere / ball. For some unknown reason I HAD to move that sphere, but I also knew it was impossible. It evoked this odd and terrible sensation emerging from two opposing mental forces: there was something I HAD to do at all costs but I also knew it was entirely impossible at the same time. My “ba…

Yeah, “HAD to” is how it felt, yet those words, and any other words, always feel insufficient.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#155
post #13

Both those trip reports are very unusual for psylocibin and LSD. It looks to me that the author might have other health complications that caused the bad trips. As a general advice one should be very careful when taking psychedelics with other prescribed medications or having a history of mental illness.

I don’t think they’re that unusual. I think there’s a major bias on the internet toward only allowing/supporting positive stories. Negative stories attract a lot of people trying to explain it away as due to underlying mental illness or some other generic explanation (which is inevitably so generic that it could apply to any user) It seems every negative psychedelic anecdote on HN is met with commenters that are resi…

> It seems every negative psychedelic anecdote on HN is met with commenters that are resistant to the idea that the drug could possibly be negative for someone.

Similar trend for reports on the negative health effects of cannabis

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#156
Despite having had a small handful of terrifying psychosis inducing trips in my 10 years of using psilocybin & LSD, I still recommend that people try them. I have had amazing and occasionally profound experiences with psychedelics, and I have had friends with social anxieties who made serious breakthroughs in the course of a day. Many of the best days of my life have been spent in nature, with friends, on psychedelics. I'm also an outlier, of my network of friends I'm the only person who has experienced serious very bad no good trips.

Psilocybin is generally more anxiety inducing, nausea inducing, & introspective then LSD (on the comeup), yet I still recommend that people new to psychedelics should start with psilocybin because it is much easier to control dosage, and the trips are generally much shorter. The intrinsic danger of LSD is that it is impossible to be sure of the dosage of a blotter, even from the same sheet as another blotter.

I understand if the author never wants to take these drugs again. I'd recommend that if you ever are curious again, you skip LSD, find a safe environment with friends and start with a small, manageable dosage of psilocybin (~1-2 grams).

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#157

I’ve noticed a troubling trend among psychonauts: any reports of terrible experiences or long lasting negative effects of psychedelics are waved away in two different ways: 1 - blaming of the person who had the experience, for not having the proper “set and setting”, or not respecting the drug. 2 - claiming that there’s no such thing as a “bad trip”, and only a challenging one that takes time to integrate. There migh…

> That it’s absurd how much suffering the human mind is capable of experiencing. A few years later and I can no longer feel much of the trauma of the experience, but there were months were I would just lay there feeling the aftershocks of the seemingly unending emotional pain I had experienced.

Sorry to say it, but that's the same what can happen when you're falling in love with someone. And if your love breaks, yes, most time you will find someone who will say 'You choosed the wrong person', like the wrong set&setting. But this is one of the more or less good endings, what when your partner dies? But would you ever warn someone to falling in love?

And that I say, who thinks LSD is not a drug for everyone.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#158
haha i have most of the negative symptoms and never had any drugs what so ever

> Continuous anxiety about literally nothing. I felt like a student who didn’t do their homework, and was dreading their teacher calling on them - for 24 hours a day.

this one is most fun :)

kind of like the end of the world is coming and you are supposed to do something but you dont know what, but you know its the most important thing that has to be done

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

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post #126
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> About 160 µg later Serious? You went with a strong dose on your first try and you blame Steve Jobs ? I mean, don't get me wrong, he was a dick what with driving a un-plated Porsche just so he could park in handicap spots and all, but this is 100% your fault. According to erowid, a starter dose is around 25ug.

Wonder if the first time he drank he chugged a fifth of vodka.

I know people who have done this, not having any information to know otherwise.

Re: LSD: Not Even Once

#160
I mean ofc drugs are dangerous but reading this it’s quiet obvious that the op did have had some circumstances before taking a really high dose of lsd. The tinnitus is a broad link. I feel really sorry for him but he could have k own better. As they all say: set and setting and this was not right here. Blaming the drug itself is like blaming a car for a car crash afterwards…
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