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Interesting. In many states in the US, cost per Kw/H is lower for businesses, even very small ones, than for residences.
Kw/H -> kWh It really is quite impressive to write a 3-letter unit with 4 errors.
Electricity Prices by Country
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
>In the US around 26% of houses use electricity as their only energy source, compared to around 9% for the UK. Something that was interesting to me when I moved from California to central Oregon was that nearly everything was powered by electricity. I didn't even know anybody with a gas stove in Oregon.
I do not know anyone in Portland metro without a gas line to their house. Furnaces, stoves, and water heaters until recently use gas. I am guessing central Oregon may have been too rural for it to make sense to install gas utilities everywhere?
Midwest is a very common for most rural homes to have 500-1000 gal propane tanks. Propone is more expansive than NatGas but in cold weather it is still cheaper than resistive electric heat...
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I am using 1300 kWh per __year__ in Germany in my three room apartment, with an electric oven and cooker. That is a lot of electricity for a single home, even with electric heating.
I went on vacation for two weeks last month and unplugged everything except the fridge and one HP Microserver N54L and the apartment averaged a little over 4 kWh per day (~120 per month, ~1440 per year) However, when we are not on vacation the average is around 10 kWh per day. Edit: We don't use electricity for heating or cooling (Sydney, Australia) as it's included with the apartment at a flat rate of 10 AUD (6.61 U…
Electricity for cooking, but not heating.
My usage in 2019 was 1300kWh/year, but that was before regular working-from-home.
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#154One little thing that stuck out: The USA leads the way in terms of household electric usage in the world – an average US household consumes approximately 975 kilowatt-hours of electricity each month, three times more than for example the United Kingdom. Which got me wondering how big US domiciles are versus those in the UK. Turns out: lot of big-ass houses here in the US. https://shrinkthatfootprint.com/how-big-is-a-…
Re: Electricity Prices by Country
#155One little thing that stuck out: The USA leads the way in terms of household electric usage in the world – an average US household consumes approximately 975 kilowatt-hours of electricity each month, three times more than for example the United Kingdom. Which got me wondering how big US domiciles are versus those in the UK. Turns out: lot of big-ass houses here in the US. https://shrinkthatfootprint.com/how-big-is-a-…
Hardly any airconditioned houses in the UK and heating is mostly by gas. I expect that accounts for quite a lot of it.
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I'd guess that a far bigger factor is that the US has a much higher percentage of houses the use electricity for room heating. I believe that it is similar for water heating. In the US there is also a high percentage of houses that use electricity for the stoves and oven and for clothes drying. A brief didn't turn up how much electricity is used for those things in the UK, but if it is like much of the rest of Europe…
Vast majority of people use electricity for stoves in the US. Electric is also common for water heating. Less common to use electricity for space heating except for the South and for auxiliary rooms.
Apparently about 68%. That shocked me. I thought for sure gas was more common based off personal experience.
https://www.statista.com/chart/amp/29082/most-common-type-of...
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I am curious about quintile statistics, or at least median. Domiciles are definitely bigger in the US, but I bet the mean average is dragged way up by the top 20% of houses. Air conditioning also uses the most electricity in a house, and the US has a lot more populated hot and humid regions than many European countries.
Nope, electric heating uses much more power than air conditioning.
But for overall household electricity use, air conditioning is 17% and heating is 15% (all houses, not just all-electric houses). [2]
[1] https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/use-of-energy/homes.php
[2] https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/use-of-energy/electricit...
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I guess that is true, I just imagined so few domiciles actually use electric heating, or use electric heating in places that do not get really cold, that it is not a significant factor in national statistics of electricity usage. Seems like 40% of US households use electric heating though, which is way more than I expected. https://www.census.gov/acs/www/about/why-we-ask-each-questio... Edit: fixed link
Most of that is going to be heat pumps in moderate climates.
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#159If you are asking yourself why prices in Germany are so high: It's mostly the price surge of natural gas after Russia cut off deliveries in retaliation to sanctions in the wake of the war against Ukraine. About 50% of the price per kw/h in Germany is set by an auction system. Electricity providers are bidding at any given point in time to provide energy for the grid. The lowest price per kw/h wins. BUT: because no on…
I would add that part of the difference is service level between the US and Germany. In Germany the outages are far less frequent and for a lot less time.
Of course the US is huge so service levels vary depending on where you are.
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#160I'm incredibly lucky to live in Quebec, Canada: 100% green hydro power at low rates. Tarif D has the first 40kwh at 6.509 Canadian cent/kWh, then 10.041 [0] It's also state owned. From what I've seen it's the best combo of green and pricing in the world. 0: https://www.hydroquebec.com/residential/customer-space/rates...
Same in Seattle. 100% hydro. Zero emissions. 0.11 USD per kWh. Owned and operated by the City of Seattle, not a profit-making corporation.
It seems like hydro would be cheaper.