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Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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There’s a hack hidden in this message, one that I’ve built an entire career out of: learn to not take anything personally in a professional context unless you absolutely must. Several times in my career I have heard someone say, “stay away from so-and-so, he’s an asshole.” And every time, literally every time, I have gotten along with them famously. Why? Because I discovered that that I could use the message these in…

My experience is the same. In an industry allegedly full of (so-called) assholes, you would think it would be a more obvious strategy.

I'm also wary of complaints that someone isn't being sufficiently tactful in their communication: more than once it has been clear to me that tact was not the problem, but rather that the listener didn't like what they were hearing.

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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My 2¢: Don't tell someone they're wrong. You'll never convince them, even when you're right. It's not worth the ink (or the blood pressure). Instead, guide them towards the path to figuring out for themselves that they're wrong. Build a foundation of truths and facts they can evaluate their own beliefs against. If they change their mind, great. If they don't learn, you're no worse off than you were before (and your b…

The way I put it is, “Don’t tell me I’m wrong. Instead, improve my understanding to the point that you don’t have to.” (If your correction doesn’t translate into an improved general understanding, then you should reconsider whether it’s actually correct.)

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

#153

My 2¢: Don't tell someone they're wrong. You'll never convince them, even when you're right. It's not worth the ink (or the blood pressure). Instead, guide them towards the path to figuring out for themselves that they're wrong. Build a foundation of truths and facts they can evaluate their own beliefs against. If they change their mind, great. If they don't learn, you're no worse off than you were before (and your b…

Tell all the truth but tell it slant —

Success in Circuit lies

Too bright for our infirm Delight

The Truth's superb surprise

As Lightning to the Children eased

With explanation kind

The Truth must dazzle gradually

Or every man be blind —

- Emily Dickinson

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

#154

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With you. This is Agreement #2 of Ruiz' Four Agreements[0]. 1. Be impeccable with your word. 2. Don't take anything personally. 3. Don't make assumptions. 4. Always do your best. It's as close to the best 'blueprint' for living I've found. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Four_Agreements

how do you become inpeccable with your words?

Word, not words. As in ‘I give you my word’.

It means you tell the truth, and if you make a commitment, you stick to it.

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

#155

>Even if my words are accurate, rational, and true, the way I deliver them may color that truth with an entirely different message. A doctor can deliver bad news of a terminal diagnosis with seriousness and sympathy. Or they can just glibly say "Don't bother buying green bananas."

OK, I do have to share: after receiving news that the surgeon on my cancer treatment team wasn't willing to tackle my liver metastasis, I was talking to my primary oncologist about next steps, if any, and timelines. He told me I should feel free to buy a new pair of shoes, but maybe not a car. (I appreciated his humor - and he helped me find a new surgeon, and that was 6 years ago. And I did end up buying a car when I needed to after. Probably shoes too.)

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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My 2¢: Don't tell someone they're wrong. You'll never convince them, even when you're right. It's not worth the ink (or the blood pressure). Instead, guide them towards the path to figuring out for themselves that they're wrong. Build a foundation of truths and facts they can evaluate their own beliefs against. If they change their mind, great. If they don't learn, you're no worse off than you were before (and your b…

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It raises questions about emotional maturity and development when one derives pleasure from someone else's anger. Just saying..

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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This article reeks of weak sauce. Delivering truth in a "sensitive" manner is a sad testament to the frail sensibilities of modern society. If the unvarnished truth bothers you, that says more about your inadequacies than the person speaking it. Hiding behind convoluted psychological constructs like "hyper-rationality" and "super-reasonability" is a coward's way to avoid hard truths and difficult conversations. The t…

It seems to me that each paragraph of your post agrees more with the OP, until by the end you're basically in full agreement. No?

All 5 stages in 5 paragraphs!

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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No. They can also be upset because you are bringing up negative things that make them sad/annoyed to think about, to which there is absolutely no benefit in thinking about. Like spending a wedding reception saying to everyone "there are people starving to death right now". Is that true? Yes. Are people upset by that knowledge? Yes. Are they, completely separately, pissed off at you for being an asshole that decided e…

That feels like a bit of an edge case. I mean, I take your point that you can definitely have no social skills and run around interrupting people's conversations and going "hey, did you know that animals are tortured every day?" and that would be you being a jerk. But I'm not talking about that. Am I crazy? I feel like what I'm describing is a near universal phenomenon and everyone knows what I'm referring to/has exp…

You’re looking for straightforward “shooting the messenger”. While it’s true that it can be straightforward deflection of negative feelings about the scenario to the person who made them aware of it, I think you’re still discounting that a lot of the time, the majority IMO, people shoot the messenger so that they stop getting messages. Stop telling me your colleague is stealing paperclips so I can pretend I don’t know. Stop reminding me I have homework to do because I’m trying to forget it.

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

#159
I found this piece riddled with false assumptions.

>When people are acting hyper-rationally, they often expect to be respected and appreciated for having a superior argument, a more data-backed answer, a provable theory.

This makes no sense. If you were truly hyper-rational, you would understand that the vast majority of people are not hyper-rational (or I would argue, rational at all). Thus you would not expect to be respected and/or appreciated for having a superior argument, a more data-backed answer or a provable theory. Most people aren't interested in hearing "the truth", they are interested in hearing things that enforce their preferred narratives.

>"If the truth bothers you," one may say, "then you are overreacting or overly sensitive."

One may say that, and it might be true, but you would not make this assumption if you were hyper-rational, as there are many other possibilities aside from overreaction and oversensitivity. There is stupidity, mood disorder, insanity, cognitive dissonance and mental disfunction of all kinds that explain being bothered by rational, true statements.

>If we have an objective, context-free, helpful truth then why can't it be offered in a way that respects and honors other people?

Because many objective, context-free truths are not "helpful" and certainly cannot be told without perceived disrespect and dishonor by people whose chosen narratives conflict with objective reality. For example, there are many objective, context-free truths that conflict directly with certain religious beliefs and dogmas. For someone who is devoutly religious, and holds their religious beliefs as absolutely true and unassailable, there is very often no way to offer any bit of conflicting objective reality that "respects and honors" them. The same goes for the "secular religion" common among many today (culture and politics). Devout believers are not interested in objective reality that doesn't jive with their preferred narratives. As someone who is hyper-rational, all you can do when it comes to these people is either utter your objective, context-free truth without regard to how offended they will get, or just shake your head and move on (the latter is often the better strategy).

Re: Is it my fault if you can't handle the truth? (2019)

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Why would you bother giving input when you don't care if or how it is received? Stream of consciousness oversharing isn't required for honesty. You don't have to say everything that comes into your head. Practice giving less of a fuck about everyone else and not evaluating them and telling them how great you are (which is what you achieve when you criticize someone for no reason).

> Why would you bother giving input when you don't care if or how it is received? Because the point of the statement is in the consequences that result, not the emotional response elicited? Here's an example, I once worked with an absolutely useless tester, the only tester on my team. Hadn't picked up by month four on the sort of basic shit he should've had on day one. And he never did. I'd been implementing some rat…

An emotional response is part of the consequences. That’s the objective reality that everyone else knows. Either you do know and are kidding yourself, or you don’t know and people have worked around you or sidelined you, or maaaaaaybe you’re that one brilliant jerk everyone believes themselves to be.

In this example you’re basically just dodging the question, because talking to someone is different than talking about them to someone else. I can’t tell if you genuinely don’t understand this.

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