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Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#151
post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I put tape on mine

You guys buy premium car and then seal the interior components with tape here an there?!

So much worse than that, because they go online and simp for the company after doing it

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#152

While some of the behaviour here is less professional than I'd expect for user data, I'm wondering what a good architecture for building a system to leverage visual telemetry without harming user privacy would really look like. The problem is that: 1) It's very difficult to manually or automatically scrub identifying information from video, and doing so probably greatly reduces the value of the data for AI training p…

> I'm wondering what a good architecture for building a system to leverage visual telemetry without harming user privacy would really look like

For starters, employees should have no way to save images from customers. No way to export them, load them on a USB drive, FTP them, or take a picture with their smartphone. If you need people to do tagging, fine, do it [WITH PERMISSION] on special workstations in restricted areas.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#153
The article mentions disrespectful locker room joking behavior around the images.

I didn't see the article touch on that this alleged mockery of "your privacy is important to us" might also include employees/contractors/partners/etc. able to use this private data Tesla collected for targeted purposes.

Such as stalking a particular person (because, e.g., attracted to, obsessed with, hated, in dispute with), or selling/furnishing information about a particular person for similar purposes.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#154
post #67

Wanted to get Model Y in the past. Nice comfy car, huge backseat and… a camera filming inside the car. Thanks no. Apparently for drowsiness detection, but I am not buying it. Time of flight camera staring at the driver’s face is kinda normal in car industry. Not a normal color camera filming everything and streaming somewhere like Tesla does.

Get a German car. Privacy is taken extremely seriously here in Germany. In all walks of life. Companies, schools, doctor‘s offices, etc.

Edit: I wouldn’t want to touch a Tesla even if it was gifted to me. Seeing the founder behave the way he does (latest incident: Changing Twitter’s logo to a shitcoins image) makes him extremely unsympathetic to me.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#155
post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Time of flight camera staring at the driver’s face is kinda normal in car industry What?

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The other comment was pointing out that ToF has nothing to do with drowsiness/alcohol detection.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#156
post #21

Wake me up when there's an EV that is just a car and not an always-connected surveillance device on wheels.

I work in the industry. It's not a "vehicle" any more - it's a "platform" to "engage" with customers, i.e. sell your data and lock features behind ridiculous monthly fees. That is now the mantra of the automotive industry. It really kills any enthusiasm I have for new cars.

> It really kills any enthusiasm I have for new cars.

... and televisions, and phone apps, and solar inverters (with wifi!) and air purifiers (with wifi!) and drones (with wifi to activate) and scooters (to activate), and on and on...

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#157
post #109

If this is true, shame on Tesla . If this is true, I expect the company will face a mass lawsuit from Tesla EV owners, many of whom have deep pockets. If this is true, whoever enabled or did it should pay .

> I expect the company will face a mass lawsuit from Tesla EV owners

Doubt it. Tesla still hasn't really faced any consequences for selling FSD capabilities that don't yet exist, and for a lot of money. They haven't faced any real consequences for removing capabilities from their customers' cars with no renumeration. Tesla owners are a loyal bunch and forgive a lot.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#158
post #21

Wake me up when there's an EV that is just a car and not an always-connected surveillance device on wheels.

I work in the industry. It's not a "vehicle" any more - it's a "platform" to "engage" with customers, i.e. sell your data and lock features behind ridiculous monthly fees. That is now the mantra of the automotive industry. It really kills any enthusiasm I have for new cars.

Why does everyfuckingthing have to be about "engaging" with customers? Why can't people just be left with their private business?

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#159

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

I feel conflicted whenever I see a comment like this. On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently. But on the other hand, what if it's not true? What if you happen to have a friend or family member who works for a Paytm competitor, or you have some grudge against Paytm for whatever reason, and are instead spreading low-key FUD about the company to make it seem like they have lax data c…

> On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently.

No, that's not “negligent”. Or even “reckless”; the violation of privacy is deliberate.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

#160

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

I feel conflicted whenever I see a comment like this. On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently. But on the other hand, what if it's not true? What if you happen to have a friend or family member who works for a Paytm competitor, or you have some grudge against Paytm for whatever reason, and are instead spreading low-key FUD about the company to make it seem like they have lax data c…

> On the one hand, let's assume it's true: a Paytm employee acted negligently.

No, that's not just “negligent” or even “reckless”, its intentional wrongdoing.

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