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ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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In the end I think LLM's will not be used on their own much, and instead more as glue for bringing together a whole bunch of other technology and allowing it to be coordinated with plain English.

You can say the same thing about humans... our greatness over the rest of the animal kingdom comes from tool use.

Microsoft researches just put out a paper about 'proto-AGI' in the last 24 hours or so, and tool use was a big part of the paper.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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OpenAI is like Google before 2003, dazzling the world with amazing products backed by astonishing technologies that went beyond wild dreams of millions of people. And most importantly, OpenAI kept releasing new features at blazing speed with a few hundred people, just like early days of Google and Microsoft. This reminds me of stark contrast of Google's GSuite and Microsoft Office. Microsoft released new office every…

This is pretty hyperbolic. Great products that were much better than what they replaced or competed with, but "beyond wild dreams of millions of people"? You'd think they cured cancer in 2003 or something...

I mean Google search were revolutionary while people had enough with Yahoo. Now the search result of Google had more ads that Yahoo had 20 years ago

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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What happened in 2003?

Nothing particular. I just don't remember major successful and speedy product launches from Google after 2003. In that year, Google launched Google Maps, shocking the IT world for how effective AJAX can be, even though the tech itself was invented by MS. Maybe GMaps was so impressive that I forgot what other major launches were after that.

GMail was pretty impressive in 2004 too. It probably sounds banal now, but not having to constantly delete emails was game changing at the time. I still have access to email going back to 2004 and I find myself looking up things I received over a decade ago.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Could be just zero, because they can consider that given the very very large popularity of OpenAI and the niche popularity of WolframAlpha, that OpenAI is doing free advertisement to WA.

Stephen Wolfram is pretty comfortable being in profitable niches. Even if there was a possible mutually beneficial arrangement it still behooves him to extract value out of it. Especially if upside is disproportionately beneficial to Bing and in time the language model will absorb some of the WolframAlpha capabilities so there is a risk factor involved as well. Plus, people with large egos tend to demand costly tribu…

True but it's quite a danger, another way to see it is that Wolfram is now teaching OpenAI model for free, showing prompt and answers for complex mathematical questions.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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> It seems like basically every knowledge worker can and will augment their workflows with this tech. Alternately, 1/10 will be able to adapt to becoming cyborgs responsible for handling the same workload, while 9/10 get laid off

> Alternately, 1/10 will be able to adapt to becoming cyborgs responsible for handling the same workload, while 9/10 get laid off Somehow, vastly decreasing the cost per unit output for the work won’t increase the market clearing quantity?

Depends on the market demand for knowledge work resources. Knowledge work mostly optimizes how well actual resources are produced and delivered to the consumer.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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OpenAI is like Google before 2003, dazzling the world with amazing products backed by astonishing technologies that went beyond wild dreams of millions of people. And most importantly, OpenAI kept releasing new features at blazing speed with a few hundred people, just like early days of Google and Microsoft. This reminds me of stark contrast of Google's GSuite and Microsoft Office. Microsoft released new office every…

I don’t remember Google being this interesting. Ever. It was a good service and very useful, but nothing like this. It was not astonishing. The tech was mildly interesting, but most of all very useful.

What was Google's email/chat crossover called, which had conversation threads visualized? Besides, Google's Graveyard is impressive and witness to Google's innovation abortions. https://killedbygoogle.com

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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post #56

This comes at the price of now both OpenAI and Wolfram getting access to your queries (when you use the plugin, of course). I’m hoping we don’t slide into a future where you either have to give up on confidentiality and privacy or else can’t use any “modern” tools anymore.

How is this different than Google/WA today?

The data you enter in Google Search is much more limited (at least it is for me). None of the other Google services are essential. (Google Search isn’t essential as well, but it’s a distinctive kind of service in that it isn’t practical to self-host.) With “WA” I guess you mean WhatsApp. For messaging, E2E encryption is now standard, which is not possible for AI services (barring huge breakthroughs in homomorphic encryption). In addition, it’s easy to self-host messaging solutions without losing out on features much.

Re: ChatGPT can now call Wolfram Alpha

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Last paragraph: I see what’s happening now as a historic moment. For well over half a century the statistical and symbolic approaches to what we might call “AI” evolved largely separately. But now, in ChatGPT + Wolfram they’re being brought together. And while we’re still just at the beginning with this, I think we can reasonably expect tremendous power in the combination—and in a sense a new paradigm for “AI-like co…

Yeah it was clear that he'd not pass on an opportunity to praise himself.
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