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Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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It's also worthy to note that shortly after that part of the video, he notes (from another question) that he has over 50 Raspberry Pis (including 12 stacks of 4xPi4s). So his choice of Raspberry Pi Linux is likely the result of that.

they run plain debian just fine these days

(with no random dude on github deciding to add microsoft directly into apt's trusted keys/repository list)

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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To improve the user experience of the many Apple customers deciding to buy an old fashioned Mac.

The very argument that was presented when iOS first came out, as well as whenever touchscreens on MacBooks come up, is that the UX is fundamentally different. So why would it suddenly be a good idea to import this from iOS?

Perhaps the people against touchscreen on MacOS finally retired or gave up the fight, so Apple is slowly preparing what Microsoft did years ago with Windows 8.

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> But at least you can close the lid on a Macbook ... Macs have the same issue, but you can turn off the feature that causes it.

You can turn it off in Windows too, though it it takes a few minutes and requires some knowledge (or Googling).

My understanding is that you had to go into the BIOS to do it, if turning it off was supported at all.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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The announcement is in the Q&A after the talk - but the talk itself is definitely is worth watching. It starts at 10:56 (link below), and covers his "75-year project". It's kind of an amazing story that his life has spanned so many different eras of technology.

https://www.youtube.com/live/kaandEt_pKw?t=656

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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I have to admit, I tried and failed to switch away from Apple. I bought a Linux Laptop - an System 76. I was surprised at how terrible the battery management of linux was compared with my mac. And that particular issue broke me.

I get at least 5h on a Thinkpad T14s (Ryzen 6850U), without tweaking, using "balanced" mode. I know some people think 5h is not enough, but it's plenty for a full day of work. If the System 76 system was Intel based, that might have been the problem, AMD has been way ahead of them for power usage in the last few years.

I have a Thinkpad T495 which is also AMD based. When I 1st got it battery life was atrocious under Linux. Kernel release 5.17 greatly helped battery life. Now it is just horrible even with TLP installed. The battery life under Windows is about double what I get when running Linux. It isn't the only but is the main reason I run Windows and not Linux as my main os on it.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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For those who might prefer text over video: Q: What's your operating system of choice, today? A: I have for most of my life, because I was sort of born into it, run Apple. Right now, recently, meaning within the last five years, I’ve become more and more and more depressed and [Laughter] what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious, but they are taking a lot of space and time to d…

"..what Apple is doing to something which should allow you to work is just atrocious.." Anyone know what his specific issues are?

To me it appears Apple has lost all the focus after Steve Jobs, there is no "do more with less" spirit in Apple products anymore. They still got some Mac OS X inertia, but it's mostly about changing colors, animations, rearranging items and trying to address every possible use case - instead of offering new OS paradigms. It's interesting that their hardware division keeps innovating - people seem to love their M1s. I miss coherent Unix environment on good hardware. Snow Leopard times were great.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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I don't know the exact issues but might be related to the issues why I left Apple : I was developing a very successful little tool for MacOS ( https://github.com/milgra/macmediakeyforwarder ) which listened for keypresses. From 2016 to 2019 it became harder and harder to install it because apple added more and more restrictions to apps like this. By 2019, you had to enable the application explicitly to listen for eve…

Given that it should be difficult, if not impossible, for random applications to listen in on user actions, is there a better way Apple could have done this? (Disclaimer: Apple fan/user since 1985.)

One click is preferred. Anything that gets in between a legitimate program and the user is friction.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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As a lazy developer I also dislike what’s slowly happening to macOS. Apple wants you to switch to sandboxed apps but they don't provide a way for you to do even half the things a traditional app can (because they can’t imagine them all up front). That’s just frustrating and lazy on their part and makes the developer UX shitty.

But, as an end user, what Apple is doing (bringing sandboxed apps and better security to the desktop) is inarguably the right thing to do. It’s a far superior position for the user and it greatly raises the bar for malware.

As developers, to me, it feels a little bit backwards. I guess my critique is that there must be a nuanced way to say “hey Apple you need to do a better job at supporting valid developer use cases” (and I’ll be the first to admit I have many grievances) while at the same time acknowledging that the increased complexity of modern computing systems is moving the needle meaningfully from a security standpoint and so we should be okay with having to work harder to keep our users secure. Like, I’d truly hope if we all switched to Linux, we’d find a way to make secure boot and code signing standard. Not just say “ah isn’t the old dying way of user-domain permissions nice let’s live here forever”.

Even Microsoft is pushing code signatures and sandboxed apps. We should be making a stink and pushing for these platforms to allow custom root signing keys and fully secure/sandboxed replacements for the functionality they’re taking away. Not just throwing up our hands and saying fuck security I’ll just use Linux. Not a great image…

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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post #109

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I don't know the exact issues but might be related to the issues why I left Apple : I was developing a very successful little tool for MacOS ( https://github.com/milgra/macmediakeyforwarder ) which listened for keypresses. From 2016 to 2019 it became harder and harder to install it because apple added more and more restrictions to apps like this. By 2019, you had to enable the application explicitly to listen for eve…

Given that it should be difficult, if not impossible, for random applications to listen in on user actions, is there a better way Apple could have done this? (Disclaimer: Apple fan/user since 1985.)

A popup on the first start with an alert and a password prompt is a good solution, but usually too many users type in their passwords blindly in case of a password prompt, so I would go with just an alert with "you need root privileges to run this app" and then they have to figure out 1. why do they need root privileges 2. how do they start an app with root privileges.

Re: Ken Thompson's 75 year project: A century of popular music in a jukebox [video]

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I don't think there are specific issues. The problem is that with each release of macOS usability, reliability and performance regress. If you're interested in these things and not so much in "bling" and questionable new features, then you'd share probably Ken's "atrocious" opinion. An example is the latest System Preferences. It's virtually unusable.

Seems overblown to me, been a macos user for over a decade and the ios-ification o f the mac hasn't been a big deal for me. My greybeard workflows still work the same (everything in iterm, using vim, tmux, all the "standard stuff"), sometimes updating xcode is a pain but w/e. Homebrew still chugging along. Parallels is fantastic. Performance of the M1 Max on my new mac studio is just heavenly. The changes to macos ha…

> I don't think I've touched the preferences "app" since I initially setup my mac studio. The moaning and groaning about how bad it is just seems so.....pointless to me.

Have you considered that other people have usage requirements different from yours?

Of course there's not much reason to complain about System Settings if you never use it, but that's missing the point.

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