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Re: Reddit is currently down

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Post by capableweb »

8note wrote: post #109
bluescrn wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's been at an all time high for availability over the last few years. They eventually managed to ban enough subreddits/users to reach a state of reliablity...

They kept all of the high volume subreddits though. Are you proposing that subreddits full of slurs are harder for the server to return as a byte-string?

Maybe subreddits full of slurs creates more reported content, and reddit never got to optimize the tables containing the reports, so if things gets more reported, database gets slower.

Not really, but fun to imagine.

Re: Reddit is currently down

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Post by ropable »

next_xibalba wrote: post #50
myspy wrote: post #31

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Canceling third party clients and the antics, as well as the bad management of Musk is what people drives away from Twitter not the reliability.

Has Twitter’s usage declined? I’ve seen a lot of opinions like this but they seem to be motivated reasoning and/or summarization of the views of a small echo chamber, but not based on actual data. I would guess most users of social media (and products/services for that matter) are not too concerned with antics of the owners.

I don't have any hard metrics to prove it, but most notable people in InfoSec (that I follow, anyway) moved off Twitter to infosec.exchange late last year. It's probably the case that individual "communities" of Twitter users have migrated off the site to a greater or lesser extent.

Re: Reddit is currently down

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Post by suddenclarity »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #83
bombcar wrote: post #70

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Reddit successfully killed most if not all web forums, and reigns supreme over that. Nothing even comes close; but some twitter/discord groups might be the beginning of the end.

I don't understand either of those. With twitter there's no room for thought or nuance. It's just a basic "hot take" machine and that's it. Sure, Reddit is full of those, but there's some depth there too at times. I understand discord even less. When I look at it it seems like just a giant chat log. I can't easily find new insights from overnight without rewinding the whole log and parsing it all. I don't know how to…

I disagree about your view on Twitter. I'd even go as far as saying it's better than Reddit for nuance because going against the pack doesn't cause you to be downvoted into obscurity. It allows more than one view. It's great for interacting directly with the researcher that did an interesting study or the developer who released a new software.

The common issue for all of the services are when they become mainstream. It attracts bad apples. Twitter used to be and still have some great interactions just like small subreddits do, but when a post reaches /r/all or the feed of a controversial celebrity, you know it's going to be awful.

Discord is more like IRC used to be. It thrives in small communities of 30-50 people where you talk regularly and each topic has its own channel so regular chitchat doesn't drown out the interesting bits. It's more of a daily pub talk with your friends than finding a tutorial 10 years after it was written.

Re: Reddit is currently down

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Post by capableweb »

cwkoss wrote: post #13
mahathu wrote: post #7

It's GPT-4, starting the apocalypse. We just don't know it yet.

How many months until the public recognizes that GPT-4 is more competent and trustworthy than many of their current political representatives?

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Re: Reddit is currently down

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Post by tshaddox »

kredd wrote: post #98
bnralt wrote: post #92

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It's interesting comparing the relatively calm discussion here to Reddit being down for hours (and still down as I type this) to the hyperbolic comments people were making about the death of Twitter when Twitter briefly had some issues the other day[1] (the site wasn't down but had some issues, and they were resolved in less than an hour). [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35043433

Reddit isn't really used as "defacto source of breaking news". I mean, local subreddits and other things stiff get prompt information, but it doesn't get as much wide coverage as Twitter.

Reddit also wasn’t just the subject of a ton of understandable attention and skepticism about how the site would continue to operate.

Re: Reddit is currently down

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Post by takeda »

22289d wrote: post #43
jrockway wrote: post #30

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I feel like Reddit is more read heavy and Twitter is more write heavy. If you're trying to read Reddit and it's down, you'll probably go read it some other time (/r/all doesn't change that frequently). If you're trying to tweet news or something, there is no way to do that when Twitter is down.

Probably just the way you use them? You Tweet and lurk Reddit? All user generated content is read heavy. Most people just lurk. Twitter publishing view counts is demonstrating this clearly. You'll get 3 likes, 2 comments, and 400 views.

Are there any Twitter lurkers? I never created Twitter account and the only time I visit it is if there's some news article or someone mentions specific tweet in social media.

From what I see, Twitter is just a tool for narcissists, and they absolutely need to write to exist.

Re: Reddit is currently down

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Post by bombcar »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #83
bombcar wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit successfully killed most if not all web forums, and reigns supreme over that. Nothing even comes close; but some twitter/discord groups might be the beginning of the end.

I don't understand either of those. With twitter there's no room for thought or nuance. It's just a basic "hot take" machine and that's it. Sure, Reddit is full of those, but there's some depth there too at times. I understand discord even less. When I look at it it seems like just a giant chat log. I can't easily find new insights from overnight without rewinding the whole log and parsing it all. I don't know how to…

Yeah they’re both quite far from a forum, but people often abuse them to be something similar. Nothing close to what Reddit has (or even hacker news)

Re: Reddit is currently down

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Post by msrenee »

gonzo41 wrote: post #143
Eisenstein wrote: post #122

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No, the 'admins' are people who work for reddit. 'Mods' are people who volunteer to work for reddit (the 'despots'). By the way, you should try modding a moderately large sub and see what you have to deal with. It is always easy to criticize until you are one having to do the work.

I don't think people make that distinction in their lived felt experience. Mods == Reddit.

Unless it's changed completely since I bolted from there a couple years ago, they absolutely do. Anyone who had been using the site for more than a few weeks generally understood the difference.

Re: Reddit is currently down

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Post by msrenee »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #38
rvz wrote: post #28

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It is actually hilarious. People would rather wait for Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Twitter, etc to get back online than to sign up to another alternative social network. It means that the network effect is still present on the site such that it is not worth it for existing users to migrate and start from zero again to a lesser known platform with low discoverability or little to no activity. Especially one with a si…

Is there a service that matches my curated list of subjects as well as Reddit does?

I've honestly gone to Facebook groups nowadays. I don't love the company, but it does seem to be one of the last places I can find fellow nerds of my specific niche interests.
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