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Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by SahAssar »

timbowhite wrote: post #111
sfeng wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare Registrar, no markup and a reliable company.

The catch is that you must use Cloudflare's nameservers [0]: 6.1 Nameservers. Registrant agrees to use Cloudflare’s nameservers. REGISTRANT ACKNOWLEDGES AND AGREES THAT IT MAY NOT CHANGE THE NAMESERVERS ON THE REGISTRAR SERVICES, AND THAT IT MUST TRANSFER TO A THIRD PARTY REGISTRAR IF IT WISHES TO CHANGE NAMESERVERS. [0] https://www.cloudflare.com/domain-registration-agreement/

That's extremely weird. Is there a publicly stated reason for it?

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by mikea1 »

> I've purchased domains from Gandi, pre-paying for multiple years of service such that some domains I have don't need renewing until 2027.

Just in case you did not know: if you transfer to a different registrar, you will not lose the extra years of registration. You can confirm the expected expiration date of 2027 at lookup.icann.org.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by jcrawfordor »

marksbrown wrote: post #126
ornornor wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That comes with its own set of issues when google decides to block your account for reasons only known to their algorithms and there are no humans to talk to. You end up locked out of your business email with no recourse.

What is an SME supposed to do? I need static web-hosting and an email server that will not get blocked by Google!

Smaller commercial email providers are probably a good balance of competence and reliability (their email service is their revenue source) and better customer service (they have few enough customers that they care more about each of them). Fastmail is often brought up in this category. I think Zoho is pretty good too if you're looking for more of a complete G-suite like offering with other applications. Both of these companies also increasingly feel like more competent or at least better-run software engineering organizations than Google.

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by ryandrake »

r3trohack3r wrote: post #135
WirelessGigabit wrote: post #46

This is why I only use service A for domains. And service B for emails.

This is why I live in a society that enforces contracts through a court system. In a functioning society you can’t sell someone a year worth of prepaid car washes and then decide they need to start paying you again 3 months into your contract. Will be interesting to see if this touches the courts and, if so, how it plays out.

Contracts are only as good as the wealth, power, and ability you have to fight in court and ensure they get enforced. Which is why they 1. usually have lopsided boilerplate terms that protect only the powerful party, 2. are usually largely written by the wealthy, powerful corporation, and 3. usually only enforced against the relatively powerless consumer.

In the ideal fantasy world, contracts are supposed to be "meeting of the minds" between parties of equal power and benefitting parties equally. But when I think of "contract" today, I immediately think "weapon used by a company to beat up a consumer".

Re: Domain registrar Gandi gets bought out, removes free mailboxes

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Post by SahAssar »

RealStickman_ wrote: post #62

What are some recommended alternatives? I specifically need support for .li domains and acme.sh to renew certificates.

inwx supports basically every TLD I've looked at and the acme.sh support will be based on where you have your DNS which can be separate from your registrar (I've used acme.sh on cloudflare, rage4, and many others. I've also used it with a local bind9 DNS server)

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Post by imwillofficial »

aidenn0 wrote: post #100
KingOfCoders wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use service A for domains, service B for DNS and service C for emails.

I reached that by accident. Service B for DNS was just a more pleasant product to use than service A, and service A didn't offer certain features I needed for emails. To bring it back on topic, this made it easy when I switched service A from Gandi to something else a year or two ago because a few things I was seeing from them "smelled funny." I don't remember the details, just that I wanted to switch.

Same, swapped over to PorkBun. Much more pleasant experience.
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