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HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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I’m fed up with hp too and know nothing about printers m. I read a lot about brother and epson. Is that what you would recommend? I need to print 50 pages per year. I feel really clueless

I'm past Canon printer user, when I bought Brother I was struck, that printing can be so effortless.

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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For those of you who haven't already, I highly recommend just biting the bullet and switching from HP to Brother for your home printing needs. I was a HP customer for decades . I had models going back to perforated paper dot-matrix printers. Finally last year I had a down-and-out fight to get my HP to do a basic task, and I bit the bullet and ordered a Brother at the recommendation of my friend. My mfc-l3750cdw Broth…

I recently bought an old Brother laserjet for 100 bucks off Craigslist. The guy thought he was scamming me, because the autofeed tray didn't work. I'll get that fixed in due time. But the manual feed tray which still takes a stack of 15-20 pages works fine. The bigger issue is my wife tells me I can't drill another hole for an Ethernet jack for it and have to make it wireless...

Have you looked at things like power line adapters? I’ve got one and it works brilliantly.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-line_communication

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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If you have a modern HP printer that currently works fine, and you want to delay buying a different brand, you might want to: 1. be using open source drivers (e.g., one of the CUPS PCL drivers, preferably on Linux or BSD) on all possible clients; 2. isolate the printer from direct network access (e.g., don't connect printer's Ethernet or WiFi, and instead run CUPS on a RasPi, which talks to the printer only via USB);…

With the right firewall rules it doesn’t have to be a headache. You can have the printer usable from local networks only and not get internet at all. What does it need it for anyway?

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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For those of you who haven't already, I highly recommend just biting the bullet and switching from HP to Brother for your home printing needs. I was a HP customer for decades . I had models going back to perforated paper dot-matrix printers. Finally last year I had a down-and-out fight to get my HP to do a basic task, and I bit the bullet and ordered a Brother at the recommendation of my friend. My mfc-l3750cdw Broth…

Does this open up the space for a "framework laptop" like company to open up? For "open" printers? If yes, what other product categories is this applicable?

From memory, printers are a patent minefield. :(

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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17 mentions of Ecotank on the 1st page of comments is a little bit sus. That said it's hard to beat older pre chip Brother laser printers for home use. Can often find a used one for around $50.

I am amazed no one talks about older HPs. I had a 4 with like 5million pages put through it, worked great. I am on a 4300DN now, in my house, got it used. Great printer. I would never buy any of their new stuff. My gosh, HP what happened? You used to make great test equipment. Then great calculators. Then great printers. Now, what? What do you do? Oh, I forgot, you give the customer a printer and hold them hostage. I…

RIP HP Laserjet 4L. These were beasts and they worked for 20 years. Even then all they needed was maintenance but the newer ones were more economical, quieter, and faster to run.

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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I used to work in the ink cartridge industry. This is not new. HP has been actively blocking non-HP cartridges for at least 10y. The issue is that there is a cat and mouse game between an handful HP "alternative cartridges" manufacturers and HP. HP is actively trying to detect and block non-HP cartridges while the manufacturers find a way to bypass it. What probably has happened here is that HP had pushed a SW upgrad…

Reading the headline I was half jokingly wondering if they did those lockdown updates like a one-off project each time or if they already have a routine schedule, like a key change mid-March every second year.

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Has anyone used Kyocera or Lexmark laser printers? I was considering buying a laser printer and HP was on the bottom of my list to consider. Thanks to their action I can exclude that option.

I have a Kyocera P5021cdn, I can't complain but I am not a power user, it has been there for a bit over than one year, I wanted a "cheap"/network printer with a perceive good quality.

Re: HP have updated their printers to ban ‘non-HP’ cartridges

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Fwiw I bought a used HP M405dne (workgroup class) for a pitance used. I stuck a GL iNet thing on the Ethernet port to get wifi on it. It has an option to enable firmware downgrades and happily takes third party toner. I pay something like 25$ every 3–4 years.

Maybe this is only happening to home office type printers and not to enterprise?

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