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Roman church decorated with 4k skeletons

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Similar church in Czech Republic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedlec_Ossuary

The Sedlec Ossuary is a Roman Catholic chapel, located beneath the Cemetery Church of All Saints, part of the former Sedlec Abbey in Sedlec, a suburb of Kutná Hora in the Czech Republic.

The ossuary is estimated to contain the skeletons of between 40,000 and 70,000 people, whose bones have, in many cases, been artistically arranged to form decorations and furnishings for the chapel.

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Being born is a death sentence.

Some would say it’s incredibly cruel to bring new life into existence for that very reason.

Some people would say that, and in some cases they would be right. I don't particularly believe it to be true, but it is an interesting thought experiment

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My wife and I visited this place about 20 years ago. I remember a woman from Wisconsin laughing and proclaiming, "We Lutherans would never do anything like this!"

Similar story, when I visited there was a school group from Northern Ireland talking about "The catholics were brutal weren't they!"

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Do you mean, for example: https://blogs.icrc.org/law-and-policy/2018/11/01/respect-for... > "Respect for dead bodies manifests itself in diverse ways in different cultures around the world.In Islamic law and Muslim cultures, burying the dead in the ground is the correct way to respect dead bodies. Cremation is prohibited under Islamic law because, unlike in some cultures, it is considered a violation of the dignity o…

A stable society stands on a set of shared principles, not on blind respect of each other traditions, no matter what those are. That no-cremation rule was made for a good reason, but that reason can't be explained to masses, hence the "just do what the sacred book tells you!" A dead body isn't completely dead, so it's better (more respectful, indeed) to keep it for two months, and then it can be burnt. But you can't…

A stable Society stands on shared principles, but those shared principles need not intrude into every aspect of life. In fact, I believe a stable Society is one which is very careful about which values it selects as universal

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Being born is a death sentence.

Some would say it’s incredibly cruel to bring new life into existence for that very reason.

The mind is great at birthing warped antinatural thoughts. Life has so many beatiful facets, if we allow ourselves to see them. Our conscious mind gets to perceive what passed our belief-filters. It's worth trying out new ones. Saying so as a depressed, anti-everything punk radiating hatred turned annoyingly positive optimist, who prefers ugly truths to comforting lies. Got there with a willingness to question my own behaviour, accept criticism (gifts) and taking responsibility for my screwups over two decades.

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In some ways, the 10000+ previous days of my life are a fairly reasonable promise of tomorrow.

They say past performance does not guarantee future results…

No guarantee but it is a good predictor on a long timeframe.

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Being born is a death sentence.

Some would say it’s incredibly cruel to bring new life into existence for that very reason.

See interesting philosophy books ‘Every Cradle is a Grave’ and ‘Better Never to Have Been’. Not for the easily depressed reader.

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Yeah, non-trinitarian Christianity is Mormons, Jehovas Witnesses, and it gets much more obscure from there.

Neither Mormons nor Jehovas Witnesses are considered Christians.

Probably because they're non-trinitarian.

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"Who promised you tomorrow?" - St. Alphonsus Liguori, Preparation for Death

People were never seriously interested in extending their lives. I submit that there's a pretty easy, macabre (to most) way to go about it: Monoclonal antigen-free body farms. Grow human bodies in labs -- farmed donor bodies -- and get good at head transplants. This cures most cancers, most diseases, skipping the complicated molecular biology we've yet to solve for. Literally replace your whole body as it ages. You c…

I mostly agree with this. But the real problem is a meta-problem. Which is that society will never allow this unless everybody becomes some kind of moral nihilist ubermensch overnight. Any kind of (recognizable) deontology would have to be left behind completely. And the socially enforced "ick" reflex (which is MASSIVELY strong in most of the population) is something that can really be overcome only by people who are far right-tail in terms of intelligence or creativity or imagination. Read your comment to the average person on the street and see how they reflexively react. People on this site routinely overestimate the quality of the average human (in literally every possible way) because they only work and interact with above average people. I just don't see how we get from here to there, at least not without some massive alteration of humans, which would only really possible with true BCI or some kind of extreme eugenics effort. But in a world where either of those were possible, head transplanation would be a breeze.
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