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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by super256 »

smoldesu wrote: post #55
super256 wrote: post #35

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> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. I wish this was true for my old Android phone. I still have a OnePlus5 lying in my drawer, which still has stellar performance, but doesn't get any new software features.

If you can unlock the bootloader, it looks like LineageOS is still serving up fresh builds for it: [bad link, i removed it]

Unfortunately, there are no stable builds. I tried some nightlies from LOS 18, but experienced regular crashing during calls. And yea, as BoppreH suggested, the camera sucks.

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Post by WWLink »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #137
twobitshifter wrote: post #117

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I only use an iPhone X so I don’t have a point of comparison but I’ve never felt it was slow to launch any apps, that’s why I haven’t felt the need to upgrade.

I only use an XS, and I cannot notice any slowdown either.

I have an XS and a Galaxy Fold 4. The XS is a LOT slower at some things. But that might reflect more on the app developers than the phone.

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Post by mrtksn »

GeekyBear wrote: post #133
itake wrote: post #29

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I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

> Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. Every flagship iPhone since 2011 has gotten at least five years of OS updates, with some of the more recent models getting six years. Security updates extend past that.

Having the latest iOS is not the same as having the latest iOS on the latest hardware. As years go by, you get less features or less snappier experience.

When my iPhone 6s received iOS 15, it didn't get the coolest stuff and the device performance was already less than decent. Even if the iOS itself wasn't slowing it down, the apps for iOS were made with expectation of higher performance.

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Post by r00fus »

ericpauley wrote: post #34
yumraj wrote: post #19

The one, and only benchmark, I care about is battery longevity. Not how long battery lasts before needing charge, but how many years it lasts before dropping to say 80% of original capacity that it needs to be replaced or the phone needs to be updated. Most, if not all, modern phones are performant enough that I won’t need to update for a long time, if not for the battery issues. At least for my use case.

All phone battery longevities are probably within a factor of 2x (for reputable brands). An iPhone official battery replacement is $100 installed. Is longevity really that material for a component that is 1/8 the price of the phone?

It’s $49 for my iPhone 8 Plus. $69 for a newer phone. Considering it as the health is listed close to 85% now.

https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/battery-replacement

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Post by stalfosknight »

izacus wrote: post #64
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #10

I guess my question is - why do I care about geekbench? When was the last time someone who doesn't play games on their phone thought "man, I wish this was faster"? Because it's been years for me. The good news I hear is that Samsung is finally improving their battery life. That is a score that I actually care about.

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A brand new iPhone can be had for a little as $429 directly from Apple. There's a whole range of iPhones that aren't the Pro line.

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Post by goosedragons »

barbazoo wrote: post #46

Why anyone would get a Samsung is beyond me. The amount of bloatware they install is insane and a lot of that you can't even uninstall. Plus it takes so long to get OS updates. And then there is Bixby or what that piece of shit is called.

I think on my Samsung A51 there was maybe 5 preinstalled Samsung apps? And for some there's no good AOSP alternative like Music anyways. I ended up grabbing the Samsung e-mail client from the Samsung Store because it's halfway decent unlike the Gmail also pre-installed one which is crap for everything but Gmail. I kinda like OneUI and updates are faster than other phones like Motorola despite them using basically stock Android. And it was several hundred cheaper than a Pixel 4a or whatever was comparable at the time.

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Post by RulerOf »

AstixAndBelix wrote: post #59
asow92 wrote: post #3

I still rock an iPhone 12 Pro Max and love it.

Saying that you "still rock" something barely 3 years old sounds.... strange. I still rock my 1983 Toyota, sure. I still rock my 20yo HiFi system. But I don't "still rock" my iPhone 11, it was only recently out of production for God's sake!

This made me chuckle. I'm "still rocking" an iPhone 12 because I'm still paying it off. If it were dated and obsolete I'd be angry I threw away my money buying Apple.

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Post by thfuran »

Thaxll wrote: post #95
itake wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use an iPhone X (released 2017) and I wish it kept up with modern app performance requirements. The iPhone X doesn't support built-in OCR in images and apps take 1-2s longer to launch than my iPhone 13. Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow.

Makes you wonder how things get slow overtime, even phones from 5 years are very powerful, the app we use are simple so what gives?

Just amazingly outlandish inefficiency.

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Post by microtonal »

RulerOf wrote: post #136
Thaxll wrote: post #95

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Makes you wonder how things get slow overtime, even phones from 5 years are very powerful, the app we use are simple so what gives?

Apps' functionality is often simple, but the apps themselves aren't. Back in the ancient days, iOS used to refuse to download apps above a certain size via cellular connection. It was 10 or 25 MB. I don't think I have a single third party app on my phone that's less than half that size.

These well-crafted iOS apps still exist. E.g. Overcast is 7.3MiB. But yeah, most apps use a lot of frameworks and assets and they can be hundreds of megabytes.
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