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AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by gardenhedge »

cobertos wrote: post #31
gregsadetsky wrote: post #19

Explanation from their Discord (more info/links below) “Earlier tonight, we started having an outage using OpenAI’s GPT-3 Davinci model, which caused the show to exhibit errant behaviors (you may have seen empty rooms cycling through). OpenAI has a less sophisticated model, Curie, that was the predecessor to Davinci. When davinci started failing, we switched over to Curie to try to keep the show running without any d…

A seemingly innocuous engineering change led to some drastic consequences. Imagine the other more critical production applications who have made the same reasonable engineering decision.

> innocuous engineering change

> reasonable engineering decision

They swapped out the AI model. That's kind of a big deal.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by jaywalk »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #32

Seems like a great chance to build a checker for political correctness and approved content. If it works well, it would sell like sliced bread, far better than some Twitch-channel, because demand for this is rising. And maybe call it OrwellGPT or Chat84 or something like that, just to get the message right...

That's basically what ChatGPT already does.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by Chabsff »

jdhn wrote: post #21

The clip seemed pretty mild to me? Basically says that he wants to do the joke, but it got no laughter, so he's not doing it. You can see worse on an anonymous Twitter feed.

You have to put it in context. That stream is/was something very particular.

The AI is terrible at making jokes, so the stream is funny to watch because it's a non-stop torrent of repeated failed attempts at telling jokes.

"Regular" jokes are delivered in the exact same way, with the exact same result. What you are reading as intentional irony and/or sarcasm really is just you projecting your expectations.

There is no way whatsoever to distinguish a self-deprecating joke from the failed delivery of an offensive one. If anything, the latter is more likely than the former, since failed delivery is the norm. (Talking about this stream in particular, not AI-generated humor in general.)

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by hellojesus »

brookst wrote: post #82
sixQuarks wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Should platforms be able to decide for themselves, or should people be forced to work on content they find offensive?

This is disingenuous. The parent didn't argue that Twitch violated any laws or shouldn't be allowed to moderate their private property. The user is observing that the current religious environment will lead to a bifurcation in society.

I would argue it already has to a large extent, but I'm not sure it's actually a problem. This has allowed new companies to arbitrage the moral standards. Free market life.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by nigamanth »

mFixman wrote: post #121

Everybody seems up in arms about this situation, but I find the whole thing hilarious. After half a decade of AI hype without many uses in the wild, we finally live at a point in history where "AI-generated Jerry Seinfeld makes transphobic joke, gets cancelled" is not an Onion headline.

The AI should make an episode regarding the world seeing this AI getting banned on twitch. When I read the heading on HN I started laughing out loud in a public place.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by ARandomerDude »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #129
verytrivial wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The topic is taboo. I cannot be freely discussed on these platforms regardless of the position taken.

The topic isn't taboo, but making fun of people is. Be nice to other people and suddenly you don't get canceled or whatever you're afraid will happen.

There's this thing in comedy called "satire" you may be surprised to learn about.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by MissLaeti »

xwdv wrote: post #113

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There is no trans sect. "trans sect", "transactivism", "transgenderism", all that kind of shit is basically far right idioms. Please don’t use that, unless you’re accointed with far right people. But in that case, what do you do here?

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by joenot443 »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #129
verytrivial wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The topic is taboo. I cannot be freely discussed on these platforms regardless of the position taken.

The topic isn't taboo, but making fun of people is. Be nice to other people and suddenly you don't get canceled or whatever you're afraid will happen.

I think there are lots of people for whom the present cultural climate permits making fun of. I see a lot of standup in New York and there are some very specific, unspoken rules about who's allowed to make fun of who, and for what.

There are entire subreddits dedicated to making fun of certain types of people, and the prevailing opinion on reddit is that they deserve it because they are Bad.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by xeromal »

mjr00 wrote: post #55

I realize this wasn't ChatGPT, and in fact the self-censorship is a big selling point of ChatGPT/OpenAI (to the chagrin of quite a few people), but this does throw a wrench into people claiming that it's not a big deal if an LLM gives a bad response to a prompt. Much like a self-driving car AI making a "mistake" can kill a passenger or pedestrian, a LLM mistakenly including slurs in your weekly ChatGPT-powered market…

The article states that the show is driven by ChatGPT and that the Davinci model had an issue so they put up on older model and the joke came out of that. The latest model does have those safe guards you mentioned.
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