Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

lajili.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

151–160 of 392 posts

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#151

Post by jsemrau »

ncr100 wrote: post #39
markstos wrote: post #6

I moderate a forum and a user recently started answer questions with links to his blog, where he made AI-generated pages of generated answers on the topics. The posts don't offer anything novel or personal to conversation, as they only repeat the most common talking points on the topic. Ugh.

This is a very hard problem, "who is the original author of a string of facts," "is that string of facts sound or was it altered," this is like the end of truth. I know that truth is relative but it's like there's no point in using the word truth anymore. Everything is just becoming a collection of words.

What if an AI-generated picture is a real person?

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#152

Post by ionwake »

schrodinger wrote: post #85
DebtDeflation wrote: post #22

An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

It may just be an arms race—the same AI that generates the nonsense also learns to identify and filter it out. Perhaps it'll also take down SEO spam with it. Feels unlikely but Google has an incentive to combat AI spam if people stop clicking on it, and presumably strong in-house AI capability…

In b4 controversial users get their content banned by accidentally tripping the AI filter

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#153

Post by juujian »

DebtDeflation wrote: post #22

An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

The worst part about this is that if there is another set of bots that tries to generate engagement, then the training data isn't coming from humans either. You have one set of actors spamming. And another set of actors upvoting stuff, predominantly their own but maybe also other random posts. So the resulting posts don't necessarily even cater to humans. It will be real online hellscape.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#154

Post by ozten »

chias wrote: post #145
ozten wrote: post #136

Each webpage should express a piece of metadata that is content-quality. * primary - The content on this page is a primary source * secondary - The content on this page is high quality, but which is primarily research based and may thus be tainted by unknown sources * bot - The content on this page is mostly automatically generated by one or more ML models with some human curated improvements HTML elements can also h…

If I operate a webpage, and I incorporate this content quality metadata tag, why would I put anything other than "highest possible quality"?

If Google or Yandex provides Search engine Tools dashboard that shows their score for your pages and that your being severely punished in SEO. "This appears to be secondary content. Please update your meta data to secondary or bot"

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#157

Post by JohnFen »

itslennysfault wrote: post #38

Really wish people would stop conflating "Web 3.0" and "Web3" they're entirely different concepts that just have similar names, and don't get me started on "Web5" (but if they are achieving anything it's killing the "Web [version]" naming convention forever) More about Web3 ≠ Web 3.0 for the uninformed / curious: https://www.nexxworks.com/blog/web3-and-web-3-0-are-not-the-...

I hear you. But as someone who remains butthurt that "crypto" has been redefined to mean "cryptocurrency" rather than "cryptography", all I can say is you're farting against the wind here.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#158

Post by andai »

Re: An electronic version of Tom Riddle's diary

>“Ginny!" said Mr. Weasley, flabbergasted. "Haven't I taught you anything? What have I always told you? Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain?”

― J.K. Rowling, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#159

Post by CamperBob2 »

blhack wrote: post #76
DebtDeflation wrote: post #22

An endless loop of AI generated content that gets posted to the web as original human generated content, with LLMs getting re-trained on this content and spitting out more content that also gets re-posted, resulting in a cesspool of BS masquerading as organic knowledge. I'm old enough to remember when Google provided meaningful search results rather than just SEO spam, the problem is about to get an order of magnitud…

You could call it: "AI Kessler syndrome". The internet becomes so full of hallucinating AI output that it becomes impossible to train the model.

Worse, perhaps. Kessler Syndrome will eventually resolve itself as junk falls out of orbit over time, or new methods for cleaning it up are developed. Information, once buried in noise, becomes unrecoverable without a source of known truth for correlation.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

#160

Post by ozten »

jsemrau wrote: post #149
chias wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I operate a webpage, and I incorporate this content quality metadata tag, why would I put anything other than "highest possible quality"?

And who judges the quality? one man's trash is another man's treasure .

Search engines are already judging content quality by dwell time and many other factors. Do they have perfect judgement, no. As long as we have centralized search engines than we have specific judges of quality.
Post reply on HN