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Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

grapehut wrote: post #72

These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

Question: is it possible that to have repercussions you have to counter sue, it's just that there are no repercussions during the case against you?

Like, that woman literally lied in court, causing you financial, psychological and image damage, couldn't you have sued for this? Theoretically speaking, I'm saying.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by ipaddr »

shycha20 wrote: post #122
ipaddr wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I didn't really know what to make of it at the time, and my first thought was this is wrong. Due to my low self-esteem and lack of confidence, I was socially awkward in high school, and those girls took advantage of my position since they knew I would not take any action. At university, I told a guy who was close to me this story and he responded with "did you enjoy it though?" I replied hell no. Imagine living throu…

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Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

notrealme1234 wrote: post #133
grapehut wrote: post #72

These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

Didn't want to post from my main account to avoid any references and trails. It goes beyond just sexual harassment at work. I was accused by my ex wife. Even before any trials or anything: I lost my job, banks, housing and pretty much anything that requires a background check. I fought this for a year, and everything was dropped, because her friend came as witnesses and explained how she and my ex wife planned on set…

Couldn't you sue for damage after that? It seems like you got a great damage and it was proven in court that it's been caused by a lie

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

#154

Post by deaddodo »

kodah wrote: post #18

Probably worth noting this story was first published by the New York Post. Take that for what you will. That said, this is a pretty wild turn of events. From the initial and continued sexual harassment/assault to the racism, and subsequent retaliation. More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. I've heard this hinted at before, but never said out loud for obvious re…

I worked at a company a few years back where the hiring manager for the engineering and product teams proudly exclaimed that she would actively go against hiring a man, until the teams were at minimum 50% women and would maintain this ratio once she reached that goal.

Totally admirable intention, for sure (if only viewed from the lens of strict equality). But I’m sure the 90% of applicants that were male wouldn’t see it that way. So, poor execution.

Edit: clarified some incendiary phrasing

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by blahlabs »

yutijke wrote: post #145
rediguanayum wrote: post #105

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I think there is a general consensus that the New York Post has a credibility gap, so it is not "ad hominem dogwhistle". From it's Wikipedia article ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post ): "In a 2004 survey conducted by Pace University, the Post was rated the least-credible major news outlet in New York, and the only news outlet to receive more responses calling it "not credible" than credible (44% not credi…

I don't know about the New York Post. Maybe it is guilty of publishing false and dishonest reporting. But I would also point out that a lot of people here on HN (in past discussions) and elsewhere have noted that the New York Times and the Washington Post also publish creatively interpreted news (or outright creative writing) at times. Despite this news articles from these sources are considered independently without…

I'm struggling to see how that would be relevant to the assertion the New York Post is not a credible publication. Seems like whataboutism to me.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by lelanthran »

Thorrez wrote: post #141
lelanthran wrote: post #132

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> By making that statement HR was definitely not protecting the company. They couldn't have foreseen that this would blow up, but they almost certainly would have predicted company damage if they had NOT parroted the line about white male aggressors.

I don't understand how refraining from saying that quote to him would lead to company damage.

> I don't understand how refraining from saying that quote to him would lead to company damage.

He's not the audience for that quote.

As we've seen time and time again, a mob will form against almost any company that doesn't parrot lines like that.

Companies issuing statements, whether internally or externally, are never going to issue anything that can be construed as less than 100% in support of women.

On the other hand, the HR person is just a person, and they sometimes make mistakes, like issuing a statement about their official policy when that policy is supposed to be secret.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

0xcafefood wrote: post #43
NeverFade wrote: post #36

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> More curious is the very direct "your team is too male" and the encouragement to fire someone. Everyone in tech knows this is happening, and it's illegal, but nobody will do anything about it. Similar to ageism back in the 2000s.

Had a manager at one job tell me explicitly that they gave an interview to a candidate but knew it wouldn't move forward to a hire since they wanted to hire a woman. I felt gross hearing and knowing that but it was said and not written so there was nothing I could do about it. And I probably would've gotten fired for raising an issue even if I did have that in writing.

Question for this sort of situation: could you send an email to "confirm the case" to your boss and your boss'boss for this? They would need to respond and get this in writing. At that point, if they fire you they will have a big problem, if they don't hire the person, they will still have a big problem.

I understand that it creates a whole set of bad situations, so just asking what's the theoretical appropriate way to handle this

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by voytec »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #45
wengo314 wrote: post #11

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that is because HR exists to protect the company, not the employee. it would be a big media storm if that aforementioned reverse thing happened.

> that is because HR exists to protect the company, not the employee I kind of get annoyed when this statement is bandied about. Not because it's false, but because it's brought up in cases like this one where if HR were actually doing their job well, they would have protected the company by doing a real investigation. That is, one of the primary purposes of HR is "keep the company from getting sued." But, in many ca…

> if HR were actually doing their job well, they would have protected the company by doing a real investigation.

In a case like this, HR expects the victim to back down. It may be assumed as a likely outcome based on the percentage of cases where this happens.

Re: Google exec fired after female boss groped him at drunken bash, suit says

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Post by geysersam »

notrealme1234 wrote: post #133
grapehut wrote: post #72

These stories leave a bad taste in my mouth. It hasn't yet gone to court, so the guys allegations could be really be anything from the God's honest truth all the way to a complete fabrication. Yet there is a huge amount of irreparable damage by public stories like this. I was once personally on the receiving end of a complete false sexual harassment allegation from a coworker almost at random (someone I had almost no…

Didn't want to post from my main account to avoid any references and trails. It goes beyond just sexual harassment at work. I was accused by my ex wife. Even before any trials or anything: I lost my job, banks, housing and pretty much anything that requires a background check. I fought this for a year, and everything was dropped, because her friend came as witnesses and explained how she and my ex wife planned on set…

Why would a bank care if someone once accused you of a crime?
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