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Most CEOs are quite disposable.
That’s a bold claim, and is more than anything a reflection of the sorts of orgs you tend to interact with.
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#152"I take full responsibility" is the new "our incredible journey" of failing tech company cliches.
Really, it's not hard to remain authentic. Statements like "I feel terrible" are fine and even "we're trying to support everyone through this transition, both staff directly affected and their families, as well as the remaining staff who we realize shoulder increased burden." Without saying "we're doing everything we can" and other obvious lies.
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#153There's many comments about what does "I the take full responsibility mean" in these threads about layoffs. I'm curious - what do you think it means and should mean? I take that a company offering better severance than required by law is taking at least some responsibility.
When they take responsibility they don't admit wrongdoing or remorse, they simply explain what they did and probably expect a pat on the back. CEO's and workers have different responsibilities.
If you think that people shouldn't be fired in hired at whim, that's why employment are for. If you think that you are being wronged, that's why there are worker rights.
It's easy to say that Europe or UK are socialist in a booming market. As it might turn out, maybe they have a point.
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#154I'd be interested to know the age (or any other) demographic of HN'ers commenting on posts like these. Lot of people sounding very personally slighted by companies trying to remain profitable (or just in business).
> Lot of people sounding very personally slighted by companies trying to remain profitable (or just in business). Do you really need to make an effort to figure out why employees feel slighted for being fired without notice, and specially by an employer whose profitability is not questioned? You made it sound like only unreasonable people would be bothered by being forced out of a job while having rent/mortgage and b…
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Re: Prisma laying off 28% staff
#155There's many comments about what does "I the take full responsibility mean" in these threads about layoffs. I'm curious - what do you think it means and should mean? I take that a company offering better severance than required by law is taking at least some responsibility.
I’m indifferent tbh, leadership and investors can do what they want, but “taking full responsibility” is not the same as “feeling bad about firing colleagues”
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, that means that he takes full responsibility for a mistake, and it wasn't due to other staff, equipment, unforeseen events etc...
What does this mean to him personally though? What are the consequences he faces personally? Lowered salary? Stock taken back? Fired?
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#157I had seen and complained about this before here in HN, how when Github said they were sunsetting Atom for lack of engagement I pointed out that the lack of engagement was... by them, not a single commit in few years so of course there was no activity [2]
Edit: looking at the Github tracker now, it seems that now they use Github as the main tracking software? So there's a bunch of new issues by internal contributors with "bad description" (meaning it's probably the tip of the iceberg of an internal issue just for tracking, not the typical issue someone finds and reports), but the old ones sit there unanswered.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Probably nothing will happen. That's what I'm worried about and that's why I'm calling BS on this. The executive uses big words like "responsibility", I'd like to know what concrete measures are then hidden behind it.
> That's what I'm worried about and that's why I'm calling BS on this. Didn't Microsoft execs put on a lavish party in the eve of announcing firing thousands without notice?
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/davos2023/card/microsoft-ho...
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Responsibility without consequence is meaningless.
The parent comment just described the meaning. It's not meaningless.
He still has a job, bonus, and golden parachute. Despite fucking up and hiring way more than needed and upending those lives.
Real responsibility would be leaving in disgrace, or returning his bonus and stock, or something else along those lines.
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#160I defaulted to Prisma for edge apps I'm experimenting with (supabase db). Given it's not possible to connect via TCP to a database and I'm stuck with JS/TS for the edge, I opted for Prisma's data proxy and henceforth Prisma. Using the ORM means I'm tied to this mess of an abstraction, migrations and scripts that require so many workarounds and experimentation to make it worthwhile when your app is not a simple CRUD o…